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In Reply to: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique posted by koko on February 10, 2002 at 15:21:02:
If you know whether Belden thinks that sine waves on a test CD and a multi-meter can make complete audio cable measurement for their research, please let me know. Thanks.I have not heard Belden shouting any hi-end-like claims such as break-in, superiority of OFC, PCOCC, and so on and on. I would like to hear what their position on cable measurement is.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - koko 15:21:02 02/10/02 (165)
- The three charts from John Curl are here - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 21:09:35 02/14/02 (35)
- Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 15:32:48 02/15/02 (34)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - john curl 13:41:42 02/17/02 (0)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - john curl 19:27:24 02/15/02 (23)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - Steve Eddy 18:53:39 02/16/02 (19)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - john curl 22:15:35 02/16/02 (18)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - Steve Eddy 00:27:59 02/17/02 (17)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - john curl 02:15:06 02/17/02 (3)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - Steve Eddy 11:02:02 02/17/02 (2)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - john curl 12:44:42 02/17/02 (1)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - Steve Eddy 14:51:49 02/17/02 (0)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 01:38:16 02/17/02 (12)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - john curl 02:04:27 02/17/02 (11)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - Steve Eddy 11:13:19 02/17/02 (2)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - john curl 12:52:38 02/17/02 (1)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - Steve Eddy 15:16:11 02/17/02 (0)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 03:26:26 02/17/02 (7)
- So high L, R? - koko 10:29:00 02/17/02 (0)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - rcrump 06:47:53 02/17/02 (5)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - john curl 12:55:09 02/17/02 (4)
- I've been taking notes all these years John and - rcrump 13:25:16 02/17/02 (3)
- Re: I've been taking notes all these years John and - john curl 15:21:41 02/17/02 (0)
- Re: I've been taking notes all these years John and - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 14:49:53 02/17/02 (1)
- Must be a lauguage problem as - rcrump 16:18:17 02/17/02 (0)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 11:27:05 02/16/02 (2)
- Mr. Hyun, please, let your competent engineers - koko 18:45:08 02/16/02 (0)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - john curl 11:54:02 02/16/02 (0)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - rcrump 16:21:10 02/15/02 (8)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 16:59:16 02/15/02 (0)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - john curl 16:50:47 02/15/02 (6)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - Steve Eddy 18:46:20 02/15/02 (4)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - john curl 19:14:13 02/15/02 (3)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - Steve Eddy 01:08:38 02/16/02 (0)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 19:19:29 02/15/02 (1)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - john curl 23:14:44 02/15/02 (0)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - hyun@hifinet.,co.kr 17:02:06 02/15/02 (0)
- good news for this thread - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 23:18:54 02/13/02 (6)
- Note to hyun@hifinet.co.kr - koko 08:14:41 02/14/02 (4)
- Re: Note to hyun@hifinet.co.kr - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 02:20:54 02/17/02 (3)
- Re: Note to hyun@hifinet.co.kr - koko 10:18:39 02/17/02 (2)
- Re: Note to hyun@hifinet.co.kr - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 12:10:14 02/17/02 (1)
- Re: Note to hyun@hifinet.co.kr - koko 09:50:31 02/18/02 (0)
- Re: good news for this thread - rcrump 03:31:21 02/14/02 (0)
- I've got three charts from John Curl! - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 10:10:24 02/13/02 (4)
- Re: I've got three charts from John Curl! - john curl 10:49:44 02/13/02 (3)
- Re: I've got three charts from John Curl! - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 22:38:48 02/13/02 (2)
- Re: I've got three charts from John Curl! - john curl 16:43:32 02/14/02 (1)
- thanks - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 20:48:33 02/14/02 (0)
- Does anyone know what Belden thinks? - koko 10:17:29 02/12/02 (1)
- Re: Does anyone know what Belden thinks? - john curl 13:50:48 02/13/02 (0)
- Sorry. Just a correction: critique -> critic - koko 18:28:33 02/11/02 (0)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 16:13:24 02/11/02 (39)
- Did your RS Gold have black jacket or orange jacket? nt - koko 10:19:50 02/12/02 (1)
- That tell you what street gang they belong to? :) nt - Steve Eddy 11:15:29 02/12/02 (0)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Thorsten 06:17:09 02/12/02 (3)
- Cable test - Granholm 03:50:12 02/13/02 (2)
- Re: Cable test - Steve Eddy 11:51:50 02/13/02 (1)
- Re: Cable test - Granholm 00:45:05 02/14/02 (0)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Jon Risch 19:20:21 02/11/02 (10)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Jitter_by_Coffee 03:44:34 02/13/02 (2)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Jon Risch 10:23:25 02/13/02 (1)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Jitter_by_Coffee 15:04:58 02/13/02 (0)
- in addition, cable is connected to non-linear devices - koko 23:58:50 02/11/02 (2)
- Re: in addition, cable is connected to non-linear devices - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 01:24:04 02/12/02 (1)
- Re: in addition, cable is connected to non-linear devices - koko 10:22:51 02/12/02 (0)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 20:13:44 02/11/02 (0)
- Is "warm up" audible? - Mike Bates 20:00:56 02/11/02 (2)
- Re: Is "warm up" audible? - Jon Risch 20:09:51 02/11/02 (1)
- Re: Is "warm up" audible? - Mike Bates 20:16:02 02/11/02 (0)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - john curl 16:53:08 02/11/02 (21)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 17:15:00 02/11/02 (20)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Thorsten 05:35:14 02/13/02 (0)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - john curl 17:24:17 02/11/02 (18)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 17:51:24 02/11/02 (17)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - john curl 20:33:35 02/11/02 (11)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 21:29:32 02/11/02 (0)
- What bandwith was measured? - Mike Bates 20:52:28 02/11/02 (9)
- LOL. Must have been in the megahertz. - Mike Bates 19:26:50 02/12/02 (8)
- Re: LOL. Must have been in the megahertz. - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 22:04:12 02/12/02 (7)
- I've seen the charts as John brought them - rcrump 22:40:40 02/12/02 (6)
- Re: I've seen the charts as John brought them - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 23:09:10 02/12/02 (5)
- Re: I've seen the charts as John brought them - rcrump 23:33:25 02/12/02 (2)
- Re: I've seen the charts as John brought them - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 01:48:21 02/13/02 (1)
- Sorry, but if you can't - rcrump 08:53:09 02/13/02 (0)
- Re: I've seen the charts as John brought them - john curl 23:17:35 02/12/02 (1)
- thanks - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 01:58:28 02/13/02 (0)
- How hard have you been looking for? - koko 18:25:50 02/11/02 (4)
- Re: How hard have you been looking for? - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 20:22:20 02/11/02 (3)
- I am so sorry that I did not understand you. - koko 00:02:51 02/12/02 (2)
- Re: I am so sorry that I did not understand you. - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 00:52:03 02/12/02 (1)
- Re: I am so sorry that I did not understand you. - koko 10:21:18 02/12/02 (0)
- That's great news for everyone who listens to sine waves! (nt) - E-Stat 15:29:07 02/11/02 (3)
- Not a big theramin fan, eh? :) nt - Steve Eddy 16:14:06 02/11/02 (2)
- I do like Bernard Hermann's "The Day the Earth Stood Still" soundtrack (nt) - E-Stat 18:22:58 02/11/02 (1)
- Uh, actually there is some text to the above. Oops! - E-Stat 18:44:02 02/11/02 (0)
- The earth was flat... - Paul-D 10:08:57 02/11/02 (1)
- Re: The earth was flat... - Steve Eddy 10:52:42 02/11/02 (0)
- More Arne Kruger solipcism - MMasztal 05:04:33 02/11/02 (0)
- who cares...nt - Mellson 04:14:44 02/11/02 (0)
- About 1910, scientists claimed humans would die at any speed faster than 30 mph! (nt) - Simply Sam 04:05:18 02/11/02 (0)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Thorsten 03:55:16 02/11/02 (27)
- A sure sign of a crazy dog is one who chases his own tail. - Mike Bates 16:22:02 02/11/02 (0)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Steve Eddy 10:39:52 02/11/02 (25)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Thorsten 10:56:54 02/11/02 (24)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Steve Eddy 13:18:50 02/11/02 (23)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - csero 08:33:52 02/12/02 (22)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Steve Eddy 10:07:43 02/12/02 (20)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - csero 10:42:25 02/12/02 (19)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Steve Eddy 11:13:41 02/12/02 (18)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - csero 12:09:10 02/12/02 (17)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Steve Eddy 14:13:07 02/12/02 (16)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - csero 14:33:06 02/12/02 (17)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Steve Eddy 15:20:12 02/12/02 (14)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Thorsten 15:51:19 02/12/02 (13)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Steve Eddy 19:46:44 02/12/02 (12)
- Note to Steve Eddy. - Jon Risch 17:00:51 02/13/02 (7)
- I'm so cool mon - I keep my socks in the fridge.... - Thorsten 17:23:01 02/14/02 (3)
- Re: I'm so cool mon - I keep my socks in the fridge.... - Jon Risch 22:02:41 02/14/02 (1)
- Re: I'm so cool mon - I keep my socks in the fridge.... - Steve Eddy 22:15:08 02/14/02 (0)
- Re: I'm so cool mon - I keep my socks in the fridge.... - Steve Eddy 19:26:40 02/14/02 (0)
- Re: Note to Steve Eddy. - Steve Eddy 19:42:52 02/13/02 (2)
- Re: Note to Steve Eddy. - Jon Risch 20:26:52 02/13/02 (1)
- Re: Note to Steve Eddy. - Steve Eddy 21:48:08 02/13/02 (0)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Thorsten 12:32:09 02/13/02 (1)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Steve Eddy 17:21:37 02/13/02 (0)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - csero 09:00:26 02/12/02 (0)
- And *poof* my experiences vanish in a cloud of dust -t - The Killer Piglet 21:42:15 02/10/02 (0)
- Virtually all heroin addicts started with mother's milk as well! (nt) - rcrump 19:07:28 02/10/02 (3)
- lol...nt - Mellson 04:18:16 02/11/02 (0)
- Great. Now Bush is going to declare mother's milk a gateway drug and ban lactating mothers! nt - Steve Eddy 23:08:45 02/10/02 (1)
- War on boobs? -t - The Killer Piglet 12:54:45 02/11/02 (0)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Atwood 17:59:43 02/10/02 (4)
- People everywhere, with respect to every commodity, buy "on name alone" - Metralla 08:11:42 02/12/02 (0)
- how old are u? - jealouse 22:22:44 02/11/02 (1)
- too serious, man - koko 23:55:02 02/11/02 (0)
- Great! Insult all Korean engineers. - Bas Horneman 05:37:20 02/11/02 (0)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Steve Eddy 17:59:17 02/10/02 (0)
- What about current, phase different over a load? - kongwee 17:23:23 02/10/02 (0)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - john curl 17:21:59 02/10/02 (3)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Steve Eddy 18:27:21 02/10/02 (2)
- Of course, he could have tried listening -t - The Killer Piglet 21:42:59 02/10/02 (1)
- Except that he was looking for objective evidence. nt - Steve Eddy 22:19:50 02/10/02 (0)
- This is a joke, right? (nt) - audioengr 16:59:13 02/10/02 (2)
- Not a joke. - koko 08:25:03 02/11/02 (1)
- So - audioengr 13:04:04 02/11/02 (0)
- I'm really impressed - Norm 16:42:50 02/10/02 (0)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - GPB 16:26:04 02/10/02 (6)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - gtrmaker 19:51:31 02/10/02 (2)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - GPB 09:30:05 02/11/02 (1)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - gtrmaker 18:35:37 02/11/02 (0)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Steve Eddy 17:11:56 02/10/02 (2)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - GPB 19:11:36 02/10/02 (1)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Steve Eddy 19:27:45 02/10/02 (0)
- Well, maybe... - Joe Murphy Jr 15:45:41 02/10/02 (9)
- Re: Well, maybe... - Steve Eddy 17:54:42 02/10/02 (8)
- You make it sound easy - audioengr 18:50:37 02/10/02 (5)
- Re: You make it sound easy - Steve Eddy 19:58:36 02/10/02 (4)
- I didn't say - audioengr 18:27:39 02/11/02 (0)
- you are too objective - Mellson 04:34:29 02/11/02 (2)
- Re: you are too objective - Steve Eddy 10:00:18 02/11/02 (1)
- sure, if we can figure out what to measure first...nt - Mellson 13:16:44 02/11/02 (0)
- A little further - Joe Murphy Jr 18:30:41 02/10/02 (1)
- Re: A little further - Steve Eddy 20:48:04 02/10/02 (0)
Follow Ups
- Does anyone know what Belden thinks? - koko 10:17:29 02/12/02 (1)
- Re: Does anyone know what Belden thinks? - john curl 13:50:48 02/13/02 (0)
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