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In Reply to: Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique posted by GPB on February 10, 2002 at 19:11:36:
Yep. And conclusions based on incomplete or haphazard testing doesn't get us anywhere either.Won't get an argument from me there except to say that this industry is guilty of doing exactly that all too often which does nothing but lend credence to the claims that it is a hopeless, technological backwater. In spite of all it's warts, I love this industry and I think it could do much better than it is if some people could manage to get out of the deep dogmatic ruts that lead nowhere.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - koko 15:21:02 02/10/02 (165)
- The three charts from John Curl are here - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 21:09:35 02/14/02 (35)
- Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 15:32:48 02/15/02 (34)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - john curl 13:41:42 02/17/02 (0)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - john curl 19:27:24 02/15/02 (23)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - Steve Eddy 18:53:39 02/16/02 (19)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - john curl 22:15:35 02/16/02 (18)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - Steve Eddy 00:27:59 02/17/02 (17)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - john curl 02:15:06 02/17/02 (3)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - Steve Eddy 11:02:02 02/17/02 (2)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - john curl 12:44:42 02/17/02 (1)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - Steve Eddy 14:51:49 02/17/02 (0)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 01:38:16 02/17/02 (12)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - john curl 02:04:27 02/17/02 (11)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - Steve Eddy 11:13:19 02/17/02 (2)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - john curl 12:52:38 02/17/02 (1)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - Steve Eddy 15:16:11 02/17/02 (0)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 03:26:26 02/17/02 (7)
- So high L, R? - koko 10:29:00 02/17/02 (0)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - rcrump 06:47:53 02/17/02 (5)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - john curl 12:55:09 02/17/02 (4)
- I've been taking notes all these years John and - rcrump 13:25:16 02/17/02 (3)
- Re: I've been taking notes all these years John and - john curl 15:21:41 02/17/02 (0)
- Re: I've been taking notes all these years John and - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 14:49:53 02/17/02 (1)
- Must be a lauguage problem as - rcrump 16:18:17 02/17/02 (0)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 11:27:05 02/16/02 (2)
- Mr. Hyun, please, let your competent engineers - koko 18:45:08 02/16/02 (0)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - john curl 11:54:02 02/16/02 (0)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - rcrump 16:21:10 02/15/02 (8)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 16:59:16 02/15/02 (0)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - john curl 16:50:47 02/15/02 (6)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - Steve Eddy 18:46:20 02/15/02 (4)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - john curl 19:14:13 02/15/02 (3)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - Steve Eddy 01:08:38 02/16/02 (0)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 19:19:29 02/15/02 (1)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - john curl 23:14:44 02/15/02 (0)
- Re: Arny Krueger found no such distortions! - hyun@hifinet.,co.kr 17:02:06 02/15/02 (0)
- good news for this thread - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 23:18:54 02/13/02 (6)
- Note to hyun@hifinet.co.kr - koko 08:14:41 02/14/02 (4)
- Re: Note to hyun@hifinet.co.kr - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 02:20:54 02/17/02 (3)
- Re: Note to hyun@hifinet.co.kr - koko 10:18:39 02/17/02 (2)
- Re: Note to hyun@hifinet.co.kr - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 12:10:14 02/17/02 (1)
- Re: Note to hyun@hifinet.co.kr - koko 09:50:31 02/18/02 (0)
- Re: good news for this thread - rcrump 03:31:21 02/14/02 (0)
- I've got three charts from John Curl! - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 10:10:24 02/13/02 (4)
- Re: I've got three charts from John Curl! - john curl 10:49:44 02/13/02 (3)
- Re: I've got three charts from John Curl! - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 22:38:48 02/13/02 (2)
- Re: I've got three charts from John Curl! - john curl 16:43:32 02/14/02 (1)
- thanks - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 20:48:33 02/14/02 (0)
- Does anyone know what Belden thinks? - koko 10:17:29 02/12/02 (1)
- Re: Does anyone know what Belden thinks? - john curl 13:50:48 02/13/02 (0)
- Sorry. Just a correction: critique -> critic - koko 18:28:33 02/11/02 (0)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 16:13:24 02/11/02 (39)
- Did your RS Gold have black jacket or orange jacket? nt - koko 10:19:50 02/12/02 (1)
- That tell you what street gang they belong to? :) nt - Steve Eddy 11:15:29 02/12/02 (0)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Thorsten 06:17:09 02/12/02 (3)
- Cable test - Granholm 03:50:12 02/13/02 (2)
- Re: Cable test - Steve Eddy 11:51:50 02/13/02 (1)
- Re: Cable test - Granholm 00:45:05 02/14/02 (0)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Jon Risch 19:20:21 02/11/02 (10)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Jitter_by_Coffee 03:44:34 02/13/02 (2)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Jon Risch 10:23:25 02/13/02 (1)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Jitter_by_Coffee 15:04:58 02/13/02 (0)
- in addition, cable is connected to non-linear devices - koko 23:58:50 02/11/02 (2)
- Re: in addition, cable is connected to non-linear devices - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 01:24:04 02/12/02 (1)
- Re: in addition, cable is connected to non-linear devices - koko 10:22:51 02/12/02 (0)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 20:13:44 02/11/02 (0)
- Is "warm up" audible? - Mike Bates 20:00:56 02/11/02 (2)
- Re: Is "warm up" audible? - Jon Risch 20:09:51 02/11/02 (1)
- Re: Is "warm up" audible? - Mike Bates 20:16:02 02/11/02 (0)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - john curl 16:53:08 02/11/02 (21)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 17:15:00 02/11/02 (20)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Thorsten 05:35:14 02/13/02 (0)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - john curl 17:24:17 02/11/02 (18)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 17:51:24 02/11/02 (17)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - john curl 20:33:35 02/11/02 (11)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 21:29:32 02/11/02 (0)
- What bandwith was measured? - Mike Bates 20:52:28 02/11/02 (9)
- LOL. Must have been in the megahertz. - Mike Bates 19:26:50 02/12/02 (8)
- Re: LOL. Must have been in the megahertz. - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 22:04:12 02/12/02 (7)
- I've seen the charts as John brought them - rcrump 22:40:40 02/12/02 (6)
- Re: I've seen the charts as John brought them - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 23:09:10 02/12/02 (5)
- Re: I've seen the charts as John brought them - rcrump 23:33:25 02/12/02 (2)
- Re: I've seen the charts as John brought them - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 01:48:21 02/13/02 (1)
- Sorry, but if you can't - rcrump 08:53:09 02/13/02 (0)
- Re: I've seen the charts as John brought them - john curl 23:17:35 02/12/02 (1)
- thanks - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 01:58:28 02/13/02 (0)
- How hard have you been looking for? - koko 18:25:50 02/11/02 (4)
- Re: How hard have you been looking for? - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 20:22:20 02/11/02 (3)
- I am so sorry that I did not understand you. - koko 00:02:51 02/12/02 (2)
- Re: I am so sorry that I did not understand you. - hyun@hifinet.co.kr 00:52:03 02/12/02 (1)
- Re: I am so sorry that I did not understand you. - koko 10:21:18 02/12/02 (0)
- That's great news for everyone who listens to sine waves! (nt) - E-Stat 15:29:07 02/11/02 (3)
- Not a big theramin fan, eh? :) nt - Steve Eddy 16:14:06 02/11/02 (2)
- I do like Bernard Hermann's "The Day the Earth Stood Still" soundtrack (nt) - E-Stat 18:22:58 02/11/02 (1)
- Uh, actually there is some text to the above. Oops! - E-Stat 18:44:02 02/11/02 (0)
- The earth was flat... - Paul-D 10:08:57 02/11/02 (1)
- Re: The earth was flat... - Steve Eddy 10:52:42 02/11/02 (0)
- More Arne Kruger solipcism - MMasztal 05:04:33 02/11/02 (0)
- who cares...nt - Mellson 04:14:44 02/11/02 (0)
- About 1910, scientists claimed humans would die at any speed faster than 30 mph! (nt) - Simply Sam 04:05:18 02/11/02 (0)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Thorsten 03:55:16 02/11/02 (27)
- A sure sign of a crazy dog is one who chases his own tail. - Mike Bates 16:22:02 02/11/02 (0)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Steve Eddy 10:39:52 02/11/02 (25)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Thorsten 10:56:54 02/11/02 (24)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Steve Eddy 13:18:50 02/11/02 (23)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - csero 08:33:52 02/12/02 (22)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Steve Eddy 10:07:43 02/12/02 (20)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - csero 10:42:25 02/12/02 (19)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Steve Eddy 11:13:41 02/12/02 (18)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - csero 12:09:10 02/12/02 (17)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Steve Eddy 14:13:07 02/12/02 (16)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - csero 14:33:06 02/12/02 (17)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Steve Eddy 15:20:12 02/12/02 (14)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Thorsten 15:51:19 02/12/02 (13)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Steve Eddy 19:46:44 02/12/02 (12)
- Note to Steve Eddy. - Jon Risch 17:00:51 02/13/02 (7)
- I'm so cool mon - I keep my socks in the fridge.... - Thorsten 17:23:01 02/14/02 (3)
- Re: I'm so cool mon - I keep my socks in the fridge.... - Jon Risch 22:02:41 02/14/02 (1)
- Re: I'm so cool mon - I keep my socks in the fridge.... - Steve Eddy 22:15:08 02/14/02 (0)
- Re: I'm so cool mon - I keep my socks in the fridge.... - Steve Eddy 19:26:40 02/14/02 (0)
- Re: Note to Steve Eddy. - Steve Eddy 19:42:52 02/13/02 (2)
- Re: Note to Steve Eddy. - Jon Risch 20:26:52 02/13/02 (1)
- Re: Note to Steve Eddy. - Steve Eddy 21:48:08 02/13/02 (0)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Thorsten 12:32:09 02/13/02 (1)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Steve Eddy 17:21:37 02/13/02 (0)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - csero 09:00:26 02/12/02 (0)
- And *poof* my experiences vanish in a cloud of dust -t - The Killer Piglet 21:42:15 02/10/02 (0)
- Virtually all heroin addicts started with mother's milk as well! (nt) - rcrump 19:07:28 02/10/02 (3)
- lol...nt - Mellson 04:18:16 02/11/02 (0)
- Great. Now Bush is going to declare mother's milk a gateway drug and ban lactating mothers! nt - Steve Eddy 23:08:45 02/10/02 (1)
- War on boobs? -t - The Killer Piglet 12:54:45 02/11/02 (0)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Atwood 17:59:43 02/10/02 (4)
- People everywhere, with respect to every commodity, buy "on name alone" - Metralla 08:11:42 02/12/02 (0)
- how old are u? - jealouse 22:22:44 02/11/02 (1)
- too serious, man - koko 23:55:02 02/11/02 (0)
- Great! Insult all Korean engineers. - Bas Horneman 05:37:20 02/11/02 (0)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Steve Eddy 17:59:17 02/10/02 (0)
- What about current, phase different over a load? - kongwee 17:23:23 02/10/02 (0)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - john curl 17:21:59 02/10/02 (3)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Steve Eddy 18:27:21 02/10/02 (2)
- Of course, he could have tried listening -t - The Killer Piglet 21:42:59 02/10/02 (1)
- Except that he was looking for objective evidence. nt - Steve Eddy 22:19:50 02/10/02 (0)
- This is a joke, right? (nt) - audioengr 16:59:13 02/10/02 (2)
- Not a joke. - koko 08:25:03 02/11/02 (1)
- So - audioengr 13:04:04 02/11/02 (0)
- I'm really impressed - Norm 16:42:50 02/10/02 (0)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - GPB 16:26:04 02/10/02 (6)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - gtrmaker 19:51:31 02/10/02 (2)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - GPB 09:30:05 02/11/02 (1)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - gtrmaker 18:35:37 02/11/02 (0)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Steve Eddy 17:11:56 02/10/02 (2)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - GPB 19:11:36 02/10/02 (1)
- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Steve Eddy 19:27:45 02/10/02 (0)
- Well, maybe... - Joe Murphy Jr 15:45:41 02/10/02 (9)
- Re: Well, maybe... - Steve Eddy 17:54:42 02/10/02 (8)
- You make it sound easy - audioengr 18:50:37 02/10/02 (5)
- Re: You make it sound easy - Steve Eddy 19:58:36 02/10/02 (4)
- I didn't say - audioengr 18:27:39 02/11/02 (0)
- you are too objective - Mellson 04:34:29 02/11/02 (2)
- Re: you are too objective - Steve Eddy 10:00:18 02/11/02 (1)
- sure, if we can figure out what to measure first...nt - Mellson 13:16:44 02/11/02 (0)
- A little further - Joe Murphy Jr 18:30:41 02/10/02 (1)
- Re: A little further - Steve Eddy 20:48:04 02/10/02 (0)
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- Re: No cable warm up: proven by a Korean hi-end critique - Steve Eddy 19:27:45 02/10/02 (0)
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