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IMHO. That's not an upgrade. The plinth change will re-tune the table but not necessarily be an improvement...

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Ray-o-Stat

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In Reply to: A Question about buying an "older" VPI posted by chriss on August 14, 2006 at 05:37:25:

The 19 plinths over the years have yielded marginal results in terms of real improvement in sonics. The choice of footers and removal of the springs to a more rigid "capture" approach is much more substantialy an upgrade.
If you are DIY-inclined I would simply do some work on the Jr.
YMMV.
cheers,

Close to the Edge, down by the river....
-Ray

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I was hoping you would reply :-) - chriss 08:10:42 08/14/06 (7)
Well then what DIY, besides the SAMA, would you suggest? I am not set on the route I mentioned. I would just as well tweak this for a while then if I ever make a change It could be a signifigant one.
The feet I currently have on my Jr are the Large cones. They may have come from VPI.My table has the AQ PT 9 arm and I use a Benz H2 cart.Yes a VPI arm would be nice but not something I can afford.
Thanks
Chris
ps please let me know if your ever heading up to the Tampa Bay area :-)
- I was just in the TB area two weeks ago.... - Ray-o-Stat 08:28:02 08/14/06 (6)
  What I did, is that I simply took the original VPI motor and put it outboard. Then I made a plinth and also took it "outboard".
  Then the remaining VPI base, I took out the "suspension" and converted it into a sand base.
  IMHO, modularizing a VPI is a great approach in improving it in baby steps. It also gives you an enormous amount of flexibility to try out different materials for footers, plinth, motor mount or "plinth", motor drives, belt materials, etc. You can experiment until you get the "tuning" you are looking for.
  My current DIY design, is this way, but it is not at all VPI-based.
  Cheers,
  
  Close to the Edge, down by the river....
  
  -Ray
  - Re: I was just in the TB area two weeks ago.... - chriss 08:50:44 08/14/06 (5)
    Sounds a bit ambitious for me. Guess I'll stick with the DIY SAMA and enjoy my new Bluenote phono stage. Thanks for the input.
    chris
    - Re: I was just in the TB area two weeks ago.... - Ray-o-Stat 09:04:52 08/14/06 (4)
      Which motor are you using for the DIY SAMA?
      Just curious.
      
      Close to the Edge, down by the river....
      
      -Ray
      - Re: I was just in the TB area two weeks ago.... - chriss 10:09:29 08/14/06 (3)
        
        In Reply to: Re: I was just in the TB area two weeks ago.... posted by Ray-o-Stat on August 14, 2006 at 09:04:52:
        
        Poormans SAMA may have bben a better descrition. It just isolates the plinth from the base. I used large matel bolts to do it last time.
        chris
        
        Well... - Ray-o-Stat 10:54:39 08/14/06 (2)
        
        In Reply to: Re: I was just in the TB area two weeks ago.... posted by chriss on August 14, 2006 at 10:09:29:
        
        A SAMA is a " S tand A lone M otor A ssembly.
        To me, that means taking it outboard.
        cheers,
        
        Close to the Edge, down by the river....
        
        -Ray
        
        Re: Well... - chriss 13:19:55 08/14/06 (1)
        
        In Reply to: Well... posted by Ray-o-Stat on August 14, 2006 at 10:54:39:
        
        Well....Yes you are, of course, correct. I assumed you knew what I was refering to. ARe there other motors you can buy to biuld a SAMA for less than the 400.00 from VPI?
        http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/t.mpl?f=vinyl&m=295006 (Open in New Window)
        
        Re: Well... - Ray-o-Stat 10:03:06 08/15/06 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Re: Well... posted by chriss on August 14, 2006 at 13:19:55:
        
        heck yeah!
        I am not even using my TNT SAMA anymore. A $30 motor has effectively blown it away!
        Do a search for postings about the Papst Motor.
        cheers,
        
        Close to the Edge, down by the river....
        
        -Ray

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