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In Reply to: Scoutmaster On Steroids posted by No Disc on July 21, 2006 at 18:21:03:
I just received the flywheel combo for my scoutmaster as well. I agree totally with what you hear. For me the biggest impact is the tonality of the instruments. Everything is richer, deeper, more resolved. They were good before, but now I'm really enjoying the delicacy. A Strat sounds very much like a Strat, the resonances of acoustic instruments just more... right. I was actually surprised at the difference it made. I guess I was expecting just more slam and authority and a little less pitch variation.
My table is on a Ginko platform, but I made a bracket for the new motor and it rests slightly above the platform and is also totally isolated from the table that way like your's is.
Sometimes we are influenced to hear what others hear after we read their comments. But I just now came across your post and we're both really saying the exact same thing. I had intended to start a thread but you beat me to it.
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If I were to use a Gingo I would of done exacatly what you did and even considered it once. The main reason I did not go with the Gingo or similar setup is I feel the Aries series benifits from direct coupling to the platform beneath.I subscribe to the idea that the Aries series is designed as a solid damped plinth and works by draining the detrimental vibrational engergy through the plinth and down into the platform it rests on. With that being the case, I feel solid maple is a much better material to drain that energy into. I've never tried the Gingo or A/B'ed the differences so I'm not knocking the Gingo mind you.
I also believe that the material that couples the Aries series plinth to the platform below also matters, not only in material but mass and shape too. For this reason I've removed the stock footers (lightweight aluminum?) and replaced with much heavier bass footers. I believe the coupling is improved by a large degree.
No Disc
I had the Scoutmaster on a Nuance before the Ginko, which does dissipate better than the Ginko. But I decided to try the Ginko largely because of Henry's enthusiastic endorsement. The Ginko was better and I intended to sell the Nuance. But then, tried the Nuance under the CDP and was surprised to hear an improvement there.
You find people using both approaches with satisfactory results. Your setup looks really nice too.
Understood.The Ginko must be good if people are buying them and liking them and Harry would never say it if it were not true. I've never heard anything bad about them either.
If you don't do as Jerry did and separate the motor from the surface of the Ginko your not getting all you can out of it though. Reducing motor induced vibration really lowers the noise floor and lets the music come through.
My guess is Jerry's setup sounds much better than the standard Ginko setup.
Lots of way to accomplish the same task.
No Disc
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