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No insult intended to any inmate who owns these. Fred J probably has 3 sets!! ;8^)
HenryA 12-gauge shotgun is the ultimate arbiter of disputes - G. Gordon Liddy
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Snake Oil?
My wife is going in for a minor surgical procedure on Wednesday and if I had a set of those blocks I could stick one under each ankle for proper elevation.Probably heal faster too,
Ed
We don't shush around here! (Siegfried)
My system
It is not harder, heavier, or stronger than oak. It is pretty much identical to Maple in most every aspect.It is very beautiful wood.
Just buy a 20 dollar maple butcher board and grab your skill saw. You will have a couple dozen that will sound as good.
They don't even grow in the same regions of NA. They don't even look remotely the same.Myrtlewood, could perhaps be more commonly called a Laurel Tree but not a Maple Tree.
This is completely off-topic, but this American usage really gets me confused.I always thought that myrtle was the English name of Myrtus communis , a Mediterranean shrub arguably similar to, yet quite distininct from, the bay laurel or Laurus nobilis .
That would certainly make myrtlewood legendary both because of the connection to classical mythology, and because I hardly see how you can get blocks of wood from such a shrub.Now it turns out there's a tree, Umbellularia californica , presumably completely unrelated either to Myrtaceae or to Lauraceae, that can be called equivalently the California Bay Laurel or the Oregon Myrtle.
Audiophiles will take notice that, at least according to Wikipedia, it is also known as "headache tree", and as pepperwood as well as myrtlewood
One of the remnant trees of the few temperate rainforests we have left is the Myrtle Beech (Nothofagus cunninghamii) which is, of course, neither a myrtle nor a beech.At least they are in the order Fagales which also contains the fagus spp (Beeches) but then so are oaks.
Mark Kelly
They are both trees, that's about all they have in common.One is evergreen, the other deciduous. They are not even in the same order, one is in Laurales the other in Sapindales.
In animal terms that makes them about as closely related as a porpoise and a kangaroo.
Mark Kelly
But few people consider the distinction when they are both known as insects. Same with woody plants. Or trees as they are called. Or is that a shrub? Or a vine? Or perhaps a rhizome. Yeah, that's the ticket. Cardas rhizome isolators at only $50 per linear decimeter. Low voltage burn-in extra.Ejaculating statements without the use of a mental condom can lead to imprudent promulgations.
Tom
"Ejaculating statements without the use of a mental condom can lead to imprudent promulgations" . . . Uh . . . whatever yer smokin', got more???
HenryA 12-gauge shotgun is the ultimate arbiter of disputes - G. Gordon Liddy
Nope on the dope. That was just a late night flashback. And I'm trying a trick that suggests if you use an expanded vocabulary it helps to keep senility at bay. Or was that it caused senility? I can't remember.Tom
remember what the first is, you're SOL. . . ;8^)
HenryA 12-gauge shotgun is the ultimate arbiter of disputes - G. Gordon Liddy
"mid fi" ... ya' know what I mean? :(
No Guru, No Method, No Teacher
HenryA 12-gauge shotgun is the ultimate arbiter of disputes - G. Gordon Liddy
HenryA 12-gauge shotgun is the ultimate arbiter of disputes - G. Gordon Liddy
HenryA 12-gauge shotgun is the ultimate arbiter of disputes - G. Gordon Liddy
HenryA 12-gauge shotgun is the ultimate arbiter of disputes - G. Gordon Liddy
While I've never experimented with cable lifters I have always gotten the impression they are mostly recommended for getting cable off a carpeted floor. Those blocks clearly would be suitable for only very shallow pile carpets.Mind you if I had a uber-$$$ system with $1000s spent on speaker cables then maybe, just maybe, I'd entertain trying lifter. But even if I did I'd likely be looking for something a hell of a lot fancier that those frigin' ugly $62 (set of 6) blocks.
Hmmmmm ... guess I'm just one lottery win away from being a pretentious snob! LOL
No Guru, No Method, No Teacher
Of course, most of the "audiophile" lifters and isolators are sheer crap and do nothing or not enough to address the problem they are supposed to alleviate. The proper solution was devised over 100 years ago and they work quite well in extremely high voltage conditions :-)Here's a hint.
The next time you drive by high tension wires. Look closely at the posts. See anything familiar?
OK. Here's another hint. They are available in the coolest colors and sizes AND the prices are a *bit* more reasonable since they are not for "audiophiles". :-)
Also, if you do an Ebay search for Ceramic Insulator you will see how many cool vintage ones there are and lots cheaper too.
cheers,
Close to the Edge, down by the river....
-Ray
Hi.Are we talking about home audio here in AA? Or HV power lines in ammunition plants or UHV overhead power transmission where ceramic cable lifters & insulators are recommended to withstand hundred kilo volts ??
I don't mind sales pitch sometimes, but to pull all the big guns onto home HiFi where only 125/240V AC mains lines & no-voltage audio cables of audio equipemnt are involved, is jumping overboard.
Get some more sensible & more relevant argument, please.
Don't blind me with relevant science, please.
c-J
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Close to the Edge, down by the river....
-Ray
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Close to the Edge, down by the river....
-Ray
is that "deafness".
HenryA 12-gauge shotgun is the ultimate arbiter of disputes - G. Gordon Liddy
Hi.you seem to be staging a flame war here.
c-J
HenryA 12-gauge shotgun is the ultimate arbiter of disputes - G. Gordon Liddy
Hi.you'll surely end up starving to death.
Who cares?
c-J
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sitting on this perch and spreading out my wings for a stretchy ... don't recall those Ceramic Insulators doing a darned thing for me that day! :(
No Guru, No Method, No Teacher
Hi.you stretched your perch to the other power line as well.
Only God could help, not insulators, my friend.
c-J
Hi.If a bird perches on ONE only uninsulated overhead power line, no problem.
But supposingly, the bird can stretch its other leg to the other power line, guess what?
Get it?
c-J
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No Guru, No Method, No Teacher
Perhaps then, you would have noticed what they do for you.Cheers,
Close to the Edge, down by the river....
-Ray
Hi.I got it done for nothing - technically better.
In fact, I posted on lifting cables off the floor just yesterday in Cable Asylum.
Why cables should be lifted off the floor?
(1) electriclally:-
There may be tons of electrical & electronic cables buried under the floor where the audio gears placed. Lifting the AC power line cables & audio cables feeding the audio gears will help reducing EMI/RFI induced from the cables bureid underneath.
In case of multi-storied condo-apartments, the situation will be much worse as the steel re-bars sandwiched inside the concrete floor slab will act as a powerful RFI/EMI noises antenna.
(2) mechanically:-
By lifting the cables off the floor, vibration conducted to the cables from the floor due to footdrops & subs-sonic structural vibrations caued by neighbourhood traffic & heavy machines will be
substantially reduced if not totally eliminated.The question is: what material of the lift we should use?
Hard blocks are OUT, wood or ceramic regardless, as they can't damp out any vibration.
Here is my simple solution used months back - semi-rigid plastic foams. But NOT those white rigid polyfoams which are too brittle to cut & too rigid for vibration.
I scrapped them from some electronic packaging - cost me nothing.
I cut them in small blocks, 4" high, to suit the tight space behind my audio/video rack, with slots to hold & grip tightly the power lines & speaker cables in place.
All the cables are run neatly parallel, but do NOT, repeat, not touching each other.
Who needs to drop a bundle to buy commercial lifter blocks if they don't serve the vibration-damping purpose.
Besides, this will tidy up the cables behind your rack, rendering so easy to track down problems & look so neat.
It doesn't matter what flooring finish it is, mine is wall-wall-carpet (with rubber unerlay) glued on concrete slab (my basement).
c-J
Lifters by Picasso *not* Lifter by Cheap-Jack.But thanks for the thought. :)
No Guru, No Method, No Teacher
Hi.Have those damper-lifters placed in line with the cables a couple of foot apart depending on the no & weight/size of the cables involved.
They work for me, why not for you either ?
c-J
It's like I just won the BIG ONE, I've hired Donald Trump as my Apprentice and given him the assignment to assemble the most expensive 2-channel stereo on the face of the earth.So anyway, one day he walks into the office and says ... "I'd like to get your input on the selection of cable lifters. It's down to two options, the one are considered a wonder of post industrial art and cost a minor fortune, the others, modest looking and costing only a few thousand per support, are reported by the Audio Press the 'work' best."
Of course I look at him as though at a complete idiot and say ... "You're Fired!"
Get it? :)
No Guru, No Method, No Teacher
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HenryA 12-gauge shotgun is the ultimate arbiter of disputes - G. Gordon Liddy
I'm talking Big Lottery and then a MajorLeague System with cables from maybe Transparent Cable, MIT, NBS, ...Besides from the Audio Advisor site they include the following about the Golden Reference Speaker Cable (a puny $2000 for a 2m pair):
"According to Hi-Fi News, 'Consonant in sound quality and in my view capable of doing justice to all but the very highest priced systems, say anything up to £80,000, the Golden Reference loudspeaker cable also earns a firm recommendation.'"
Like big deal £80.000, a mere $150,000! Hell I'd expect to spend that on powerline conditioning in my mega-$$$ system!
No Guru, No Method, No Teacher
Makes me question how much I am paying when I buy regular equipment.
Shun Mook Peckerwood LP clamp . . . ;8^)
HenryA 12-gauge shotgun is the ultimate arbiter of disputes - G. Gordon Liddy
. . . you can outfit ten listening rooms!
plus they come with their own wagon.Tom
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Close to the Edge, down by the river....
-Ray
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