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In Reply to: Nirvana LP question posted by drw50 on August 3, 2005 at 11:29:37:
I have three copies: MSFL, Geffen, Simply Vinyl.To be honest, I never could tell which was best! Each time I would play my "test cut" and wound up listening to the rest of the side forgetting I was supposed to be doing a comparision! Unlike hardware, I think I can get a sence of a recording's quality almost immediately. Based on my so called comparison, I'm led to believe thet are all quite good. I'd probably exclude the Simply Vinyl as a choice on the basis that it is likely they did not have access to as good a source as the others. FWIW, Simply Vinyl pressings seem to be very quiet though.
Someone mentioned a white vinyl version of the album and increades noise. I have a white vinyl Geffin copy of Unplugged and must say it's fantastic sounding. Most white vinly I have is the same way, so I wouldn't discount it on the basis of color.
marc g. - audiophile by day, music lover by night
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Does anyone have the real info here on why some people say that black vinyl records sound consistently better than colored vinyl records? I can see where adding carbon to a record would change some properties. Just guessing, it could make the surface harder, smoother, and more conductive for less static. I don't know about dissipating heat though. For the record (pardon the pun), I don't really notice differences between colored and black vinyl specifically. I can hear differences in a good or bad pressing and between a heavy, virgin vinyl record and a thin, recycled vinyl record. So color seems a separate mystery to me. If all other matters were equal, what difference would color (the addition of carbon or graphite?) make sonically?
There was an excellent article in Audio Magazine sometime in the late 70's or early 80's that discussed the sonic characteristics of colors of virgin vinyl. I wish I still had the magazine, but unfortunately, as soon as I left home and went to college, my audio library was discarded before my room was converted to a tv room, *sigh*. Thank goodness I had my TAS issues tucked away with my vinyl!I still remember some main points.
The use of black is actually a compromise. It provides a balance of low surface noise and longevity.Pure clear vinyl has the longest life but has high surface noise, white is allegedy close to the same, while RED was the opposite end of the spectrum, dead silent but brittle by comparison...
I wish I still had the magazine, perhaps someone else in the forum has it?????
if a record is truly pressed with virgin vinyl regardless of color additive/conditioner, it's transparent. Hold it up to the light and light will shine through! If it doesn't, it's not "virgin".An interesting factoid that also came from that article.
I can remember seemingly useless information from 30 years ago, but I can't even remember what I had for lunch yesterday!
The aging process really sux! :-D
MoFi, back in the day, used to tout in their ads that you could hold their records up to the light and see through them (you could). I thought it was funny that, when they started making LPs again, their rallying cry was "heavyweight 200g anadisq". No way you could see the light through one of those puppies...
Interesting. I don't think I have any of those.
Do they claim that they are virgin vinyl?You would be surprised at how many records you thought were normal black LP's from the 50's and 60's, then when you shine them up to the light you find out that they are a transluscent deep blood red!
The marketing material described it as "Super Vinyl," produced by JVC in Japan. Claimed that it was durable enough to play repeatedly, without rest. When held up to light, it's a nice amber color.
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