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In Reply to: Re: NO posted by Rob Mercure on August 23, 2006 at 10:03:03:
Glass and or Vacum will only prevent outside elements from reacting. Most alloys will have atomic migration of alloying elements, as will any working of the metal becomes undone with time (ie rolling of hot or cold steel is work being put into the metal). This I know as having studies material sciences while at OSU Welding Engineering college. Other than very pure elements, such as graphite elements used in some tubes, all materials have some sort of entropy change. The rate will vary for a variety of resons but still can happen.
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Tim,With all due respect your response is sorta "generic" - yes we are all subject to entropy - I'm quite "entropic" myself but this really doesn't answer the specifics of "entropic effect" on vacuum tubes. While I do subscribe to the "anything is possible" school I also retain a healthy skepticism where someone stands to profit from purveying a bit of "lore." And I've got thousands of NOS/UOS tubes - some of which I'm presently inventorying to sell - so I would actually stand to benefit should this prove to be true. But the proof is lacking so far .........
Hi there, Rob. I don't think your post really deserves any respect at all based on the "wise-ass" attitude it displays. I guess we are all aware, now, of the thousands of NOS/UOS tubes you possess. Taking inventory to sell? You wouldn't be priming the market with your comment, would you? Just exactly How would you benefit from an entropic effect on vacuum tubes? You contradict yourself in your own posting. You're sorta kinda mean spirited too, aren't you? Perhaps proof is lacking for the normal operation of the gray matter in your possession.
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Elektron,Why is it "wise ass?" Do you argue that the statement seems "generic" and not specifically adressing any issue in question? And I didn't state that any tube sales I might may would benefit from "entropy" but instead a proven value in "ageing."
I'm not a tube seller just someone with more tubes than they are can possibly use! There is no "priming" as I expect to sell these to other tech's hobbyists that I already know.
And I find it funny that you accuse me of being "mean spirited" (a personal attack) when I've not done so with anyone who posts on this board and I don't mean to come off as such. Rather than attack me why don't suggest ways that I can get my message across "more gracefully?"
Hmmm, and if I seem "passive agressive" please provide examples - if I choose to be critical of something/someone I wish to be direct and those who know me have never described me a "passive" about anything
. I hope you do note that I mock myself often, I try to be amusing - even silly - sometimes, and try not to take myself seriously while I do take what I have to offer seriously. Lastly, as I've tried to address your points, how have I contradicted myself.
Time is the variable here and as of yet no one has pinned down how long it would take for yout thesis to occur. Could be 10, could be 1000 years
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Who knows. The rate is slow, alot of variables will determine the rate of change, for example, temperature, strength of the vacum ie any gass in there, the material purity itself, etc etc etc.
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