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In Reply to: Looking for advice on SET amps 45, 2a3, 300 posted by vman71 on April 11, 2007 at 04:58:38:
Its a temp setup in my bedroom. Its get pretty loud, although a 300b would likely be more ideal. Which Klipsch are you using? You have a somewhat large room to be filling with sound. Have you every tried a single digit watt amp in that room? Do you find yourself listening at rather loud volumes?SETs for under 1K tend to go REAL quick on Agon (sometimes not?). As of recently there have been some interesting units on ebay. Right now there are 2 custom made amps there a 300b and a 2a3.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=014&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT&viewitem=&item=330107260714&rd=1&rd=1
This 300b seems like it was quite a project. May sell for some $$$ who knows.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=002&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT&viewitem=&item=120107788220&rd=1&rd=1
This 2a3 seems like a nice deal. WOuld allow you to have some $$$ left over. Looks well built and done by someone other than a hack. DEspite the sellers inability to spell BASS properly. Hey I miss spell all the time :-)
Maybe some here could comment on the circuits of both as I know little of these things. My feelings are the simpler the better.
All the best on your hunt. Have fun.
Dave
Follow Ups:
Dave,Thanks for the advice. Right now I'm running either KLF-20's or Chorus II's. I definitely think that I need to have a listen to at least one SET or more before I pull the trigger.
The only tube amp that I have heard and actually own, is my restored Eico HF-81. I bought it before I even heard it and it is just amazing. I love the tube sound and that has me itching to go even farther and try SET.
Thanks for the links!
Mike
I just wanted to make sure you werent totally green to tube amps.The HF-81 is VERY well reguarded and sought afrer. Rightfully so as you know.
Ive have experence with EL84 PP EL34 PP 6550 PP and KT100 SE and PP
Other than SE-P, (the PP guys will hate me) but its been my experience that a well designed SET will simply sound better, for the most part, when properly matted to a speaker. SET have limitations, power mostly. And can be a bit analitical at times. But overall there is nothing else like it (in a positive sense).
The smaller Klipsch speakers, like yours and mine, tend to sound a bit less effecient than they are rated at. Like I said, right now I only have a 2 watt 45 amp driving mine, but its in a room thats only about 12x12. So I have no issues with volume. In a room like yours I may feel a bit cheated vol wise. If it were a K-horn Id probably be fine (minus some sub bass, maybe).
SET amps simply need the right speaker to shine. And many (not all) of those speakers can be a bit bass shy. LIke in my living room I have Fostex Sigma 168 in rear horns with horn tweeters being driven by a 300b amp with a sub being driven by a plate amp. SOunds amazing. Im still no where near done. But Im VERY happy for now.
I think youll be OK with a 2a3 or 300b on your rig. You will no doubt do some experimenting and changeing over time. Hell its how most of us (myself) learn the little we know. Its really quite fun if you have a good att about it.
Do a pile of searching here on AA and youll learn what would normally take yrs of lurking and reading other wise. Again take ALL our remarks with some salt. One thing youll learn is we ALL think a BIT different. Thats the great part about it, oh so many options.
Just ask us if you want some input. Most are friendly!
ALl the best
Dave
Dave,Thanks for the experience and advice. I'm really excited about trying a SET amp with my rig. I think that based on my price range, I will be limited to a well designed and well built 2a3 or 300b. The 45 is probably out of my price league.
I'm interested in listening to a SET amp or two at one of the local audio stores.
Also, if I find a great deal, I will buy without hearing like I did when I bought my Eico HF-81.
Mike
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