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In Reply to: I'm just Kurious Oranjaa posted by mes on May 17, 2002 at 05:56:09:

I apologize, inmates, for any boredom or irritation this cryptic Fall related insider trading causes. However, if a punter & significant Fall fan, someone like myself, stumbles upon this site and finds positive mention of The Fall - and Messiaen, for example - in the same breathe, well, my arrythmic little hillbilly heart will be filled with sands of gladness. He/she may feel validated; it is indeed possible to be wiggy for The Fall- and Falla. Well, okay, that pairing might be questionable, but I hope you get my point: expanded musical horizons as good brain and soul food, blah, blah, blah; or, never mind being pockered & quasimodal - it'll only make for a rich inner life, so who cares, blah, blah blah. The central nervous system question for mes comes as a pithy equation and goes: "Why do people hate beauty? I cannot fathom it" x "Life should be filled with strangeness, like a rich painting" x "The Classical, The Classical!= "PROZAC! IT'S A GOOD LIFE BOWING BEFORE TYRANTS"
And, uh, what are ye faves as for BRUCKNER & MAHLER performances? Please?
He Pep!
srahka

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The Strangeness, The Strangeness - mes 08:40:53 05/19/02 (8)
In this moment, favorite Mahler is Walter and CSO "Das Lied von der Erde" with Mildred Miller and Ernst Hafliger.Bruckner 8 with Solti and Chicago S.O. Messiaen "Quatuour Pour la fin du temps" with Shaham, Meyer, Wang and Chung. I believe the latter 2 had a hit a decade or so ago on pop radio. In addition to The Fall, I still listen to copious amts of The Feelies. Off topic, but curious given the flavor of your posts, ever see the flick " Fishing with Ghandi"? I'll have to refer back to P.D. Ouspensky before I can attempt to answer the mathematical query. Come to think of, having read him is the reason I'm on Prozac.
- I Want Ghandi - srahka 18:16:27 05/20/02 (7)
  I haven't seen Fishing w/ Ghandi, but am searching for it. Mes, please continue to hip me further if you care to, pops - and that goes for the rest of you edgy & wedgy cognescenti. Thanks! The Feelies are wonderful too, by the way. Great choice. Thanks for the Bruckner recommendations, well Soltied is well seasoned. I hear Bruckner's liturgical output is especially fine, stuff to make one's shins shine as a matter of fact. True? Am just about to acquire A Chung kissed bit o Messiaen around with Hollinger and Rostopovich as soloists. Just won it on der eBay. Title of pieces escapes me at the moment And yeah, wasn't that a kick in the head when Wang& Chung had that pop tone in the early 80's about Dancing Days - or whatever. But then again I thought I was in a level 2 coma when I heard Nigel Kennedy in the charts a few years ago with that creaky ELO - Black Flag hoe down tribute thing. Procol were my absolute faves in the late 60's to early 70's and, strangely enough, on par with my worship of the Velvets, and then Roxy Music and Eno in the early 70's. Quite a bit of the Procol stuff has held up remarkably well. An woefully underappreciated band in my opinion. Stay away from the accented rantings of that spooky Ouspenskaya, mes. Look at what was revealed to Larry Lon Chaney Jr Talbot! Woof.
  - Too much cheesecake too soon... - mes 06:48:55 05/21/02 (6)
    And don't let this happen to yoo-hoo-hooo...Roxy was my first concert ever, as a teen, and remain a favorite as well as any BF solo. Curved Air (puppets) was my second, Lou Reed 3rd. Just missed the Velvets. Wang Hung speaks volumes of the music of that dessicated decade. Actually Kennedy's( or the artist formerly known as) recent Bach on EMI is quite good. FWG is a real piece of cortical candy if you can find it, make sure you see the very end :-) I'd actually segued from Gurdjieff to PD, frying pan to fire. I met a werewolf with a chinese menu in his hand..........his hair was PERFECT. Aahhooo
    - Haf Found 'Ghandi' - srahka 19:01:10 05/23/02 (5)
      ....at the local Hollywood Video! Not too difficult at all. Just picked it about 1/2 hr ago. Plan to view it sometime this weekend. Appears to be on my wavelength,mes. I'm really looking forward to it. Has anyone seen Ken Russell's film from years ago regarding Mahler? I've not, but wonder if it's worth a search. Deft and brilliant - or merely self indulgent pap? Russell did a treatment back in late 6-oh on the pre-raphaelite painter and poet, Dante Gabriel Rossetti. I saw it when a burgeoning teen and it had a great effect on me. But that may well be selective memory. Some other meetings with remarkable mimes in the film sense that I care to share with ye:
      Office Space. This comedy has been on the comedy channel, but it has some truly funny moments.
      Haiku Tunnel. Somewhat awkward in its comedy, but is entertaining overall.
      Hey, anything by PRESTON STURGES. Brilliant old time Hollywood writer and director. Literate, sometime near surreal screwball comedies. The title, "Oh Brother Where Art Thou?" alludes to a Sturges film where it is featured as a working title. I thought it was a great movie, too.
      Eraserhead. Natch. Overexposed as a cult fave I'm sure, but I still think it has some great moments (and so does Mullholland Drive)
      Ghost World. I read Clowes work in comic book form years ago. I had my doubts, but this one impressed me.
      The Tenant. Polanski film. Added tension to this crazy film comes from the craziness that beset Polanski in real life.
      
      Loads more, but I'd love to hear others obscuro faves.
      Do The Strand!
      srahka
      - sit in the garden, growing potatoes by the score... - mes 06:02:20 05/24/02 (4)
        
        In Reply to: Haf Found 'Ghandi' posted by srahka on May 23, 2002 at 19:01:10:
        
        Wasn't that Lyle Lovet in Eraserhead? :-) Two eternally recurrent favorites of mine are Diner and Repo man. The anal retentive album filing scene in Diner lead to some sorely lacking acknowledgement from my wife that I wasn't entirely insane and perhaps such behaviour wasn't exclusively the result of my chemical milieu. One of my favorite scenes of all time is in Repo Man when Harry Dean Stanton is driving in the car with Emilio Estevez, and keeps muttering " god I hate that, god I really hate that." When Esteves finally asks what, HDS nods toward the sidewalk and says "that, people." Misanthropy par excellence. Let me know what you think of "Fishing".
        
        Repo man's always intense.
        
        Take Harry Partch Fishing With Gandhi - srahka 10:23:48 05/26/02 (2)
        
        In Reply to: sit in the garden, growing potatoes by the score... posted by mes on May 24, 2002 at 06:02:20:
        
        mes, my mother, my dogs, and clowns - and all and sun dried... the video, FISHING WITH GANDHI is a fookin' delight. Thanks for the recommendation, mes. But we're probably only backslapping one another. Hilarious weirdness in the improvised dialogue is what made this Indie film for me. Worth searching for. Sort of an art rat, uhm, WAITING FOR GODOT in reverse(?), but actually funny and sans the feyness of the template. And no slam where none intended - Sam "the sham" Beckett is an absolute fave. One drawback was the sound; the filmmakers needed to better mike the actors in more than a couple instances. I thought earthy & folky was indeed the way to go for the incidental music, but I would have taken it up a few notches and made it a tad more atmospheric. I think the busy reedy and percussive noodling of something by Harry Partch, for example, would have nicely complemented the disinhibited quality of the head injured, coma-speak richness of the red neck duo's dialogue. Eh, but everybody's a critic.
        Thanks again!
        I could talk talk talk myself to death,
        srahka
        
        But I believe I would only waste my breath....show me - mes 21:11:44 05/27/02 (1)
        
        In Reply to: Take Harry Partch Fishing With Gandhi posted by srahka on May 26, 2002 at 10:23:48:
        
        So glad you enjoyed. You and me and 1 of my other 3 friends makes three :-) While you're thinking it isn't, it carries you along on essentially waves of overwhelmingly understated acting and dialogue that's more like a stream of pithy conversations culled from everyone I've ever known or talked to. Vis-a-vie Godot, they each are everyman. I nearly pissed myself at times- " Hey Led Zeppelin, know anything about engines?" And the family history conversation under the bridge- reminded me of a line from Bill Hicks-" What's your family tree look like- a stump?" Harry Partch would do. I was also thinking Red Clay Ramblers or even Ry Cooder. But I'll take it as it is. Let me know if you check out Repo Man.
        I blew up your body.........But you blew my mind
        
        Woman Down In Memphis, Baby Jane's In Acapulco - bandura 16:00:30 05/29/02 (0)
        
        In Reply to: But I believe I would only waste my breath....show me posted by mes on May 27, 2002 at 21:11:44:
        
        One of my very favorite lines from the film was also "Hey Led Zeppelin..." Yeah! My eyes widened with delight to read your mention of Red Clay Ramblers. I'm only familiar with their Merchant's Lunch and that was when it came out in about 1977. Hearing that LP conjures up some very warm memories. Ever hear of MICHAEL HURLEY? Early Hurley is especially swell. He was pals with and sometime lyricist for THE HOLY MODAL ROUNDERS, a lysergically damaged bluegrass/folk aggregate. The playwright/actor, Sam Shepard played drums for a spell.
        Great stuff he's put out. His earliest stuff has not made it to CD as yet. He's great!
        Early Hurley
        early Hurley
        early Hurley
        did sang
        (to warp & woof the Donovan line a bit)
        srahka
        
        Takes Me Right Back...When I was Young - srahka 07:47:55 05/25/02 (0)
        
        In Reply to: sit in the garden, growing potatoes by the score... posted by mes on May 24, 2002 at 06:02:20:
        
        Diner was an early fave. The first time that I recall seeing a film where the induced nostalgia didn't taste of sugared air. I was also iimpressed by the melancholy undertone. That's the disthymic in me. Can you believe I've never seen repo man? I've heard of it certainly. Another for the list. My wife purposely avoids all 'lost in music" film. The film, Hi-Fidelity, had a weak plot but the depiction of the obsessive types who haunt( and work in) record stores was dead on. More recommendations, please.
        Lyle Lovett WAS Henry Eraserhead.
        Damn straight!

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