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Severius! Supremus Invictus

In Reply to: Re: Holding HIP Feet To The Fire posted by C.B. on April 15, 2005 at 15:27:56:

Yo - were you aware of Macrakkas's early career on those crappy side labels like DG's Arkive, etc.? I wasn't. What I was aware of was that those were marketed to, and purchased by, a small but devoted group with narrow interests back in the 60s & 70s. I didn't give a hoot about the baroque or any pre-classical material (still don't), but the recordings of classical repertoire were dry as dust. And, now, thanks to gentle Thornhill, I've come to find out that a lot of that dessicated Mozart from the 60s on those narrow interest labels is being claimed by HIPs as their own origins. Boy, start off badly -live badly.
Anyway - you've misunderstood my point. I don't question any of the work done on pre-classical material. Even much of the work on the classical period is mostly OK. But, when you guys start messing with the late Romantic period, and lying outright - you've got another thing coming.

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Well, when you attack HIP and musicologists... - C.B. 05:05:39 04/16/05 (2)
without qualification, what am I supposed to think?
Not that I'm one, since I'm not published and I don't make a living at it, but I did study musicology on the graduate level, so I think I'm justified in "raising my hackles" a bit at what you said.
I'll reiterate what I said about Norrington, Mackarras, etc.--they're not musicologists or music historians in the strictest sense and shouldn't be considered as primary sources. Having written a liner note or two does not constitute "being published", and in any event, what one reads there, as well as in record magazines, trade publications, even encyclopedias, should be taken with a grain of salt.
Best bet--primarly sources such as the ones I listed, or publications such as the Journal of the American Musicological Society, the Galpin Society, or more the journals of more specialized groups such as the Viola da Gamba Society of America, the Historic Brass Society, the International Double Reed Society, etc.
- yes but... - Paul_A 05:42:08 04/16/05 (1)
  despite his apparent ignorance on the subject, Severius! has drawn out people who do know something about it, and for that, I suppose, I should be grateful. The level of discussion has rarely been higher here, but it's unfortunate that it it came about as a response to poorly thought-out misinformation and pointless tirades. It almost tempts me to start a thread with the title "BEETHOVEN SUCKS!" or "MOZART'S A WEENIE!" just to learn from the responses.
  The promises we are being given of future master classes in music theory, history and the decline of the Roman Empire do not make me optimistic. While I find the connections between music and broader cultural movements interesting, they seem to be prone to undisciplined speculation and the kind of epiphanies that, on reflection, evaporate quickly. Actually, I find the universality of experience more remarkable--the fact that I can appreciate historical people or productions as if they were contemporary. It's an appreciation that seems to come with age, and probably doesn't lend itself to a great deal of discussion.
  - Hey Paul, I think you're on to something. In my next post I think I'll accuse Schubert of bestiality, or something. - Danno of the High Desert 17:22:31 04/16/05 (0)
    Should be fun : )

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