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In Reply to: I typically agree with Ralph... posted by Sean on February 19, 2007 at 15:21:33:
When the accepted story falls apart, I look for explanations.Speakers are driven by power, not voltage. All speakers I can think of have a finite impedance which results in a substantial amount of current in the load. Voltage is a component of power.
Now there is the story about speakers being voltage driven, but what we find is that story is part of a larger story called the 'Voltage Paradigm'. In it, we see that all measurements relate only to voltage and rarely to anything else. This paradigm of design and measurement also contains the story that the ideal amplifier can make constant voltage into any load. An example of this is a transistor amplifier that makes 100 watts into 8 ohms and 200 watts into 4 ohms- doubling power as load is cut in half.
What is important to get is that the Voltage Paradigm is only a story and is not universally supported as fact. Here are some examples:
Horns, ESLs and magnetic planars have impedance curves that have nothing to do with box resonance. In fact for such speakers they are expecting the power to be constant regardless of the impedance that they have. In the case of ESLs, which have high impedance in the bass region and low impedance in the highs (often varying by more than 5:1), 'constant voltage' amplifiers will play too much highs and not enough bass. Try a 'constant power' amplifier (tubes- Power Paradigm) on there and suddenly the speaker is making flat frequency response.
In the 45 years since they were introduced to audiophiles, transistors failed to supplant the prior art, the 'obsolete' technology. Why? The first thing to look at is the language, or story, surrounding transistors. Perhaps the idea of constant voltage is incorrect? Indeed, anyone successfully running tube amps knows that you don't need that characteristic to make things work and in fact you are better off without it; that just because a tube amp is not designed with intention to drive loads less than 4 ohms is not a bad thing at all. Conversely transistors do not drive high impedances, and what we see from history is that speaker designers and manufacturers have always gone where the money is. In the 50s there were 32 ohm speakers and 16 ohms was common.
Back in the 1960s, transistors were becoming possible, but (due to being non-linear) needed (and still need) a lot of feedback to make them work. Realizing this, the industry made up the 'constant voltage' story and pitched it to the market, since transistors cost about 1/10th that of tubes to make the same power, but you get to charge just as much. There was a lot of money to be made! The public bought the story, and now there is 40 years of 'drift' away from what is real (BTW we are seeing the same thing happen now with class D, which costs 1/10 the money to make power as transistors cost...).
Some evidence for this is that there are more manufacturers of tube amplifiers in the US now then there was in 1956! Unlike the demise of the flathead engine to dual overhead cams in the same period, tubes have not been supplanted for the simple reason that they work.
So if the story about constant voltage is made up for dollar's sake, then of course the measurements we have for speakers and amplifiers today is not going to carry a lot of weight with our ears: we are measuring the wrong things! We have created a situation where we have made our measurements virtually irrelevant.
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Thanks for the detailed explanation, Ralph.Recently, I replaced my Krell integrated (transistor) amp (KAV-300i) with another integrated (mostly transistor) amp (BAT-VK-300se). These amps are of equal nominal rated power. And, although I haven't seen the measured response curve for the BAT product (the Krell integrated was tested and measured by Stereophile some years ago, I assume that, into a purely resistive load, both products have essentially ruler-flat amplitude response through the entire audible range and beyond.
Yet, in comparison to the BAT amp, the Krell amp has a slight upper treble emphasis (or "hardness"), driving the same speakers and with the same sources. It's very slight, and I would not have said it was even there, until I connected the BAT amp and notice that "the sound" was missing. So, you have two different amps which sound different driving the same speaker, even though their amplitude response measures the same.
I did notice, driving a pair of much less expensive speakers (Paradigm mini-monitors) that the Krell amp produced a really nasty upper treble peak, that was not evident when those speakers were driven by the vastly cheaper and less powerful NAD receiver. Again, I assume the NAD product's amplitude response into a nominal 8 ohm resistive load is, for practical purposes, ruler-flat in the audible range.
Yet, those two amps also sound different, driving the same speaker.
Every different amp design has a different noise characteristic. By this I mean its production of RF noise from its power supplies, its response to RF noise on the AC, input, and speaker cables, and its production of noise and distortion in the audio output. Any and all of these things can cause the kinds of differences you heard.Damping of the load is another area of major differences among amplifiers. The 'damping factor' is quoted based on low frequency measurements, based on the assumption that damping is only important for the woofers. However, all active elements in speakers interact with the amplifier in some way that affects the damping. Amps with slow feedback loops may not maintain a quoted high damping factor at higher audio frequencies.
Reponse to reactive power is another area where amps differ. Electrostats require large reactive currents to flow at higher frequencies. Amps that contain negative current feedback will limit these currents and suppress the treble. This might be a blessing in cases where RF noise is causing spurious treble tones.
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Sounds like 7th harmonic to me.
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