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really want to improve my power. can u tell me your experience? or point me to some good links. thx
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Well, I bought one Furutech FP-15 (cu), will try it for my power amp. If I can hear a difference, I may play around some more with outlets and better plugs on power cords.
This thread reminded me. I'm tired of spelling it out when discussing these things with audio friends. TIA
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Yes, I second the question. Do these make an obvious improvement over a regular household wall recepticle?
I haven't tried the "high price spread" yet, so won't speak to those. Al Sekela speaks from knowledge on the materials and implementation question below. You can take his advice and run with it, as I have.I can speak from experience of upgrading from the household contractor cheapest grade crap to any better outlet - the improvement is significant. My current favorites are P&S. I didn't like the Hubbells, but if you read the posts here you'll find that a lot of this is a matter of system synergies and personal taste.
What's much harder to pin down is just how much difference most would notice between the same outlet plain or cryoed. That one still interests me.
Since a lot of guys go immediately from household crap to a cryoed better or even audio grade outlet, I haven't read a clear hierarchy of signnificant differences articulated. Sort of like going from your ancient junker car to a new Corvette and saying there's a difference there. Sure there is! But how much difference is there between a Honda and a Toyota? Or between the Acura of outlets and the Lexus of outlets?
Generally I've found that Duster and Tonemaniac seem to do their testing and do it to extremes. So when they articulate a ladder of products and differences I find meat to chew on, even though they take the cost and time factors way beyond anything I can consider.
I replaced P&S 5262-AI and Hubbell 5362 receptacles with six(total in
both of my systems) Furutech FP-15 (cu) outlets.Link reflects both the author(Enchantment1.6s) and also my opinion
of the sonic changes made by upgrading to the Furutech FP-15 (cu).Quote:(Enchantment1.6s)
"There's so much more detail and clarity and a big improvement across the board in tonality, weight, bass, midrange, highs, musicality, dynamics, soundstage, etc etc yadda yadda...."
I find myself spending more time listening to the music and enjoying it more because of the excellent tonal qualities and a transparency
that was not available with the P&S 5262-AI and Hubbell 5362 receptacles.It impressed me so much that I also upgraded all my power cords to
Furutech connectors and changed chassis IEC outlets in my pre-amp
and both power conditioners.
I can't speak to whether the Oyaide receptacles are the absolute best for all systems, but they certainly contain parts designed to overcome the obvious problems in the USA domestic power system standard receptacles. They are beautifully made and objects of industrial art in themselves.The purpose of a receptacle is to deliver up to 20 amperes of 60 Hz current at 120 volts without setting your house on fire. Loads such as vacuum cleaners and floor lamps are insensitive to minor imperfections in current and voltage linearity caused by the receptacle. However, most audio equipment at the present state of acceptable design is sensitive to these imperfections.
The first and most obvious problem is the security of the electrical contact. The plug blades are inserted into spring-loaded contacts. The contact metal has to maintain the spring pressure over a life of thousands of insertions as well as conduct electricity. There is a conflict between these two requirements. The metal composition, forming process, finish, and annealing all affect how well the contacts perform both these tasks.
The second problem, related to the first, is the acoustic response of the receptacle. The receptacle is typically mounted in a wall exposed to the audio system output, so it is subjected to a delayed and filtered version of the signal. If the electrical contact resistance is modulated by the acoustic input, there will be some sort of unwanted feedback through the power circuit. The receptacle body and contact design help determine the acoustic response.
The third problem is the metal spine that supports the insulating body (very cheap receptacles do not have such a spine). The hot and neutral wires pass on either side of this spine, so it can be a participant in the electrical circuit. If it is steel, then it acts like the core of a one-turn inductor. Any nonlinearity in the steel's magnetic response over the range of magnetic field strength generated by the supply current will induce distortion in the power wave form. Further, if the receptacle is mounted in a metal box, the spine will complete an electrical circuit that forms a one-turn transformer with the hot and neutral wires. The screws are typically steel and also cause audio problems.
Better outlets will have brass instead of steel spines and screws, but it is still a good idea to break the spine circuit at one end of the receptacle with an insulating screw and washer if the junction box is metal.
I've found by experimenting that acoustic vibration and magnetic nonlinearity in the receptacle parts cause audible degradation. Receptacles that are acoustically damped and made of non-ferrous materials give better sound.
Another problem with most receptacles is the break-away tab used to join the two outlets. One of the outlets will have the highly-stressed scored metal of the tab in series with the power connection. If you need to use both outlets, it is good to break off the tabs and wire both outlets separately.
There is a further issue of the metal finish. Various plating recipes are used in different receptacles. I don't have experience with plated metal plugs and receptacles, so I can't speak to which plating recipe would give improved performance, if any. However, it is obvious that clean contacts give better sound. Please be careful with live outlets if you attempt to clean the contacts: some cleaning tools and materials may conduct electricity.
the P&S 8200H outlet from cryo-parts is only 21 bucks shipped, and sounds MUCH better than the regular household receptacle. the clamp mechanism is much better designed, which IMO contributes to the sonic improvement.
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There is no such thing as the "best" in audio....LOL!It all comes down to system matching/tuning and with that in mind, I have had tremendous success with the SWO/P series of AC products from Oyiade.
Click on the link provided to see quite a few high end receptacles from Oyaide and others.
In addition, I highly recommend the cryo treatment of said receptacles and AC male plugs.
Your are on the right path sir. It all starts at the wall and if your system is "drinking from a sewer" so to speak, it is handicapped right from the start.
Cheers,
~kenster
... urine from Royal Doulton crystalware DOESN'T taste better than urine from a Dixie cup!(Sorry, couldn't resist! ;-)
- DeeCee
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