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I was having a bit of a sibilance issue with my phono IC being 4N's silver .010". I cut apart a Kimber cable teflon coated wire having 6 internal twisted wires using one that was .012". I put this in a teflon air tube and placed it in a braided sheild.The sound is now extremely interesting. It has the bass slam, midbass warmth, and vocal qualities of good copper wire IC's, but with the spacial characteristics, air, and detail of silver IC's.
I am so happy with the combination that I rewired my passive buffered preamp with this same hybrid and now the preamp is demonstrating some really outstanding sound.
Just wondering how many others have tried this and what your results were.
Cheers!
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Which pin would you connect with silver cable?
So you will have 4 air tubes and an insulated copper earth drain.
... is that I like to build cables and interconnects with NO special calculations or physics or formulae or anything...I just twist up an idea I think will work and listen to it.
My personal fav are minimalist teflon jacketed (tight) unshielded twisted pairs. Sonics are as good as Allen Wright's silver fine wires. Very crisp and clean sound, not excessively bright or harsh, with literally NO noise - this is a black-vacuum-of-space background.
Of course all of the above statements are based on pure math, physics and measurements...lol NOT!
Swap your new creations in and out and in and out. After 6 months to a year, the "I built it ego factor" begins to dissipate, and you don't value your DIY jobs more than something you bought. It is at this stage of "honesty" that you can really begin to do fair comparisons - even sighted.
Until then, you're probably a bit biased towards what YOU BUILT - but that's ok (and very normal). As long as you are aware of that possibility and do not deny it's existence then even the most prudish objectivist won't have anything (good) to say!
Cheers,
Presto
Cheers,
Presto
And my DIY pure silver sounds just as good to me and the 2,000 a pair pure silver intereconnects but cost me 125.00 to build.The copper conductor in a teflon air tube with a silver conductor in a separate teflon air tube sounds very delicious right now. Are they perfect? Probably not. I find copper IC's to sound bloated and thick while silver seems a bit thin in the midbass and vocals. The hybridization seems to give me the best qualities of both, but does not erase the poor qualities of both. But since the sound seems blended it definitely shows promise while it is definitely not perfect.
Since I am a tweak I will never be satisfied. So a year from now I am likely to have a completely different favorite....or not.....this is what makes tweaking so much fun.
Here is my personal DIY Hybrid copper/silver interconnect.I use an oversized PE tube to achieve a quasi air-space dielectric.I used WBT-0108 Top Line solderless RCA's,24awg solid core OCC signal conductor and a 22awg solid core OCC pure silver ground conductor.I run both conductors parallel through the teflon tube.Slide a techflex braid over it and some clear heatshrink for additional strain relief and you are good to go.A tip for those who find their DIY interconnect's too bright try PE tubing instead of teflon.I don't market these or sell them on my website...these are something I made just for fun.
"If it sound's good it is good!"-Ernest Lee Farley III-
I have an 8ft silver cable with silver bullets and will be cutting it down a some point to make a few cables. I have thought about having silver bullets on one end and copper bullets on the other. On power cords some are mixing it up as well.
Hi,Interesting!
I also toyed with an idea to try something similar.
Can you elaborate a little bit more please?
How (what to) did you exactly connect the copper wire?
Is it connected in parallel, or is it now transfering signal on its own(you disconnected some other wire)?
Is it signal or return?
What is the AWG of this wire?
My IC's are teflon air tube dielectric based. So I purchase A-M Systems solid core silver wire in whatever size I need. I prefer the .025" wire for high level IC's and .010 for tonearms and phono IC's.I was suspecting the balance of my sound was a bit on the dry and sterile side.
So I cut apart some 8TC Kimber speaker cable. I removed one teflon jacket and exposed the internal wires. Kimber uses one heavy conductor, two mid sized conductors and three very thin conductors.
I prefer the sonics of the two mid sized conductors for the IC's I build. These are about .010 to .012". I wire these in parallel with the silver conductor each in their own air tube. I run this balanced so both the positive and the return are mirrors.
I really like the Vampire gold plated solid copper RCA's and the HomeGrown audio solid silver tipped RCA's.
I use crepe paper to bundle the air cores and then braided shielding to eliminate RF. I ground the shield only at the source side, and float the shield on the target side.
Cover it all with Vinyl braid for looks.
I really like the magic of these hybrid. They are not as crisp and clear as the all silver. But the copper does low frequencies better than silver, and the hybrids seem to flesh out a very satisfying tonal pallet.
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