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In Reply to: What's to disavow? How can there be a "peace process" when one... posted by hcman on February 19, 2025 at 18:43:07:
Ukraine is not part of NATO and not a part of the US...I see no reason for the US to feel obligated 'financially or militarily' to Ukraine for aid.
Europe, Ukraine and the US as well as everyone else knows Russia has been asking, telling and warning NATO not to put weapons near Russia, yet they continued to advance closer and closer. Also everyone knows Ukraine was not only stealing Russian oil/gas coming through its country but also holding it hostage and demanding higher fees.
The "War" didn't just pop up out of nowhere for no reason over night. It was years and even decades in the making...and all the while Russia was throwing up red flags telling the world not to go that route.
J.
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- RE: What's to disavow? How can there be a "peace process" when one... - Jotaro 19:11:02 02/19/25 (23)
- Red flags - JDK 20:36:17 02/19/25 (8)
- RE: Red flags - Jotaro 21:10:49 02/19/25 (6)
- It's all transactional among the countries. As long as you're useful the protection will be there - Wojciech 21:22:32 02/19/25 (0)
- I think the EU received the pointy end of the cattle prod this week - JDK 21:18:25 02/19/25 (4)
- RE: I think the EU received the pointy end of the cattle prod this week - Jotaro 21:22:57 02/19/25 (3)
- You don't believe Russia wants to spread across Europe - Steve O 08:02:34 02/20/25 (0)
- How much money would you truly and honestly be willing to bet on that? nt. - MWE 07:12:41 02/20/25 (0)
- RE: I think the EU received the pointy end of the cattle prod this week - JDK 21:54:16 02/19/25 (0)
- Well at last it came to a fight - WHERE IS NATO ? - Wojciech 20:45:41 02/19/25 (0)
- we know Putin's talking points... - Jim Pearce 19:13:32 02/19/25 (13)
- Just the Facts - Jotaro 19:26:51 02/19/25 (12)
- RE: Just the (selected) Facts - Steve O 20:36:33 02/19/25 (11)
- Considering that Ukraine was never an independent nation - Wojciech 20:56:48 02/19/25 (9)
- RE: Considering that Ukraine was never an independent nation - JDK 21:00:04 02/19/25 (8)
- Agreed. nt. - MWE 07:16:42 02/20/25 (0)
- Nope. What Russia really wanted from Ukraine is to be what Canada is - Wojciech 21:14:08 02/19/25 (6)
- RE: Nope. What Russia really wanted from Ukraine is to be what Canada is - JDK 12:02:54 02/20/25 (0)
- we're doing fine... - Jim Pearce 07:55:24 02/20/25 (4)
- Wishful thinking at best . Your official rhetoric for public consumption may change slightly - Wojciech 08:35:33 02/20/25 (3)
- you're projecting... - Jim Pearce 11:37:37 02/20/25 (2)
- Of course you're not Poland - Wojciech 12:27:28 02/20/25 (1)
- umm...no... - Jim Pearce 12:52:45 02/20/25 (0)
- RE: Just the (selected) Facts - Jotaro 20:48:01 02/19/25 (0)