In Reply to: RE: You May Express Your Dismay posted by Peter Qvortrup on August 27, 2015 at 03:03:14:
Peter,
I found the following in Mr. Colloms' article;
>" The Fifth Element DAC was just the same, here fed from a variety of S/PDIF sources up to 24-bit 96kHz, and it was able to read much of the higher sound quality of HD programme. (Note that it truncates words to 18-bit resolution, and the mute relay rattles helplessly with still higher sample rates.) Two extra bits and a doubled sample rate were easy to hear, which testiļ¬es to the very high quality of the DAC interface."
>"Tracks with less resolution indeed sounded less well resolved"
>"However, when streaming the few 24/96 tracks available, there was now sufficient advantage to leapfrog the CD drive's 'Red Book' performance. Now the Fifth Element DAC showed gloriously just how much more transparency, detail, openness and image scale could be generated from the higher resolution format, notwithstanding that the DAC only has an 18-bit non-oversampled chip (though admittedly a very good sounding one)."
I agree with Mr. Collom. Two extra bits and a doubled sample rate are easy to hear. I would go further and say; two more bits and double the sample rate again, and that will be easy to hear too. I also think it would sound better. All else being equal. YMMV.
>"The way our R&D looks so far there is not much point going beyond 16Bit"
I'm sorry to hear that. Well if the hi-res download market takes off over the next five years, or maybe you finish current projects, you might take another look at it.
You are telling me that AN is building a discreet 16 bit dac out of normal sized resistors? That is crazy insane, and I mean that in a good way. Best of luck to you on it. I would love to hear one, and I hope the guys who can afford them enjoy them. I think that is a very cool idea.
I think the vinyl revival was a reaction to Mp3s dominating mass music. The hi-res market is really just getting starting this year. I've been waiting a long while for the hi-res source material to show up, and it finally has. I think in five or ten years you will see it more.
>"You cannot make a claim as broad and seemingly conclusive as you do about the quality ranking of 16/44 Redbook and Hi-Rez and DSD unless you have tried the widest possible alternatives."
Why not? One good turntable is all you need to know a lot about records. Frihed got to state his observations about what he heard, and so do I, and so do you. You have shown that you really do believe in 16bit. I take back what I said about your ad copy being full of crap. I think the only disagreement we have is whether a higher bit depth and sample rate can add to sound quality.
All my sweeping pronouncements are made from hearing only one hi-res player, but it's a good one. The Sony HAP-Z1ES. Laugh if you want to, it's a fine DSD player. Interestingly it upsamples and converts 16/44 to DSD 64. It sounds really good that way. Yes I know it has a delta sigma dac, but it has to. It beats my vinyl rig, and I never thought I would be saying that. Feel free to use it as a benchmark against your own products. It's my first baby step into digital audio that doesn't involve a CD. There will be others, but for now I'm enjoying it, and building up my hi-res collection. There's an AN DAC3something on Agon now, and there will be others.
Linked below is a video about the AD5791. It seemed to have a lot of information.
Have a good one,
Jamie
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