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In Reply to: well... posted by drclark on June 18, 2005 at 08:34:23:
My ears perked up when I read your comment about the casual listeners experience as this closely matched my own experience in the early days. With all the fuss this product has created it has become difficult to listen non-critically at this point. Conditioning appears to be another of those powerful psychological effects.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - GSIC observation and query... - Wellfed 22:10:18 06/16/05 (141)
- Since no incontrovertible test will ever show that the 'GSIC' improves CD optical transparency as claimed, why bother? - Tom Dawson 00:23:20 06/20/05 (3)
- Why bother what? [nt] - Wellfed 21:15:56 06/20/05 (2)
- Re: Why bother what? [nt] - Tom Dawson 16:46:01 06/21/05 (1)
- I am for real... - Wellfed 21:15:11 06/21/05 (0)
- I think, based on my own experiences, - rp1@surfnetusa.com 19:50:57 06/19/05 (4)
- "Casual off-axis listening" is extremely important. America's greatest living composer taught me that. - clarkjohnsen 08:04:52 06/20/05 (2)
- "And definitely the Chip helps the music at least as much as the audio". Mind telling what that is supposed to mean? nt - bjh 11:54:34 06/20/05 (1)
- Geez Luiz, it's self-explanatory. nt - clarkjohnsen 06:56:19 06/24/05 (0)
- Non-critical listening is my norm... - Wellfed 20:41:00 06/19/05 (0)
- it should be noted... - drclark 20:45:59 06/17/05 (33)
- Sorry, I missed that point... - Wellfed 21:17:51 06/17/05 (32)
- well... - drclark 08:34:23 06/18/05 (31)
- Re: well... - Par Time Punk 03:00:00 06/19/05 (24)
- Re: well... - KlausR. 03:18:16 06/19/05 (23)
- Re: well... - Par Time Punk 01:01:40 06/20/05 (22)
- Re: Believe the hype... - geoffkait 02:48:57 06/20/05 (21)
- Has it got the "EC approved" stamp? (nt) - orejones 03:47:14 06/20/05 (20)
- Re: The editor and senior reviewer of Hi Fi News liked it... - geoffkait 04:33:05 06/20/05 (19)
- Do you know what that approval means? It seems you don´t... (nt) - orejones 04:36:03 06/21/05 (14)
- Re: Approval - geoffkait 04:52:39 06/21/05 (13)
- QEE (Quod Erat Expectandum) (nt) - orejones 10:27:23 06/21/05 (12)
- Re: AAAI (Ad Absurdum Ad Infinitum) nt - geoffkait 14:10:15 06/21/05 (11)
- "AAAI (Ad Absurdum Ad Infinitum)" ... a nice definition of the whole GSIC affair, isn´t it? (nt) - orejones 02:31:46 06/22/05 (10)
- Re: There's an old French expression, "It takes two to tango." nt - geoffkait 02:57:34 06/22/05 (9)
- No Geoff, in France they say:.... - KlausR. 01:06:20 06/24/05 (4)
- Re: Klaus, over here we have an expression... - geoffkait 03:26:51 06/24/05 (3)
- I see you've fed your bablefish - KlausR. 05:17:46 06/24/05 (2)
- Re: Just the facts, Ma'am - geoffkait 06:34:32 06/24/05 (1)
- Facts, where are facts? - KlausR. 07:28:11 06/24/05 (0)
- NOT French !! - clifff 14:13:54 06/23/05 (3)
- Re: You're right! - geoffkait 14:49:38 06/23/05 (2)
- Don't give up your day job. - clifff 15:14:47 06/23/05 (1)
- Re: Cliffff - You're too fast for me :-) nt - geoffkait 04:41:49 06/24/05 (0)
- And the audio press also likes... - KlausR. 09:36:28 06/20/05 (3)
- Re: Really? Two reviewers agree on something? n - geoffkait 12:05:22 06/20/05 (2)
- You did not get my point, did you??? - KlausR. 09:25:53 06/21/05 (1)
- Re: You had a point? - geoffkait 10:24:34 06/21/05 (0)
- Thanks Dave... - Wellfed 21:13:04 06/18/05 (0)
- Why do you think it is safe to use? - Al Sekela 09:41:00 06/18/05 (4)
- interesting observation - unclestu52 11:32:37 06/18/05 (0)
- good points... - drclark 10:06:16 06/18/05 (2)
- Re: good points... - Tom Dawson 00:43:28 06/20/05 (0)
- I see your point: - Al Sekela 09:03:17 06/19/05 (0)
- you will be able to figure out the reason - tunenut 20:32:46 06/17/05 (0)
- Re: GSIC observation and query... - apesma 14:30:24 06/17/05 (1)
- I will need clarification as to what it is you're asking... - Wellfed 16:22:35 06/17/05 (0)
- divine intervention? - Par Time Punk 23:44:59 06/16/05 (2)
- New query... - Wellfed 00:46:28 06/17/05 (1)
- Re: New query... - Par Time Punk 01:47:06 06/17/05 (0)
- Re: Does Marshall Nack have a PhD in physics? - Paul_A 04:19:52 06/17/05 (1)
- Re: Does that matter? - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 15:24:16 06/17/05 (0)
- Why don't we just agree that we disagree? - Norm 07:26:22 06/17/05 (16)
- I asked a pretty simply question Norm... - Wellfed 16:26:17 06/17/05 (0)
- Re: Why don't we just agree that we disagree? - Az Barber 08:12:29 06/17/05 (1)
- The "discourse" is useless, but you are right I could ignore it. nt - Norm 10:39:58 06/17/05 (0)
- Here's why. - Al Sekela 10:11:02 06/17/05 (8)
- I am more concerned about cell phones and drivers using them. - Norm 10:38:13 06/17/05 (6)
- more camps please - Par Time Punk 13:19:59 06/17/05 (4)
- 3 & 4 don't exist nt - Norm 13:27:33 06/17/05 (2)
- just because you cant see them? - Par Time Punk 13:34:40 06/17/05 (1)
- Likewise PAR [nt] - Wellfed 16:31:07 06/17/05 (0)
- The common phrase is "There's a sucker born every minute." - Al Sekela 13:34:52 06/17/05 (0)
- Why do you think that? - Al Sekela 13:38:30 06/17/05 (0)
- Re: Here's why. - jokekajr 10:46:10 06/17/05 (0)
- Re: Why don't we just agree that we disagree? - Tuckers 11:12:01 06/17/05 (3)
- I am not ignoring the empirical evidence. I am ignoring the small amount of anecdotal evidence. - Norm 12:22:49 06/17/05 (2)
- Re: I am not ignoring the empirical evidence. I am ignoring the small amount of anecdotal evidence. - Tuckers 19:53:50 06/17/05 (1)
- It is anecdotal. nt - Norm 20:13:50 06/17/05 (0)
- EVEN BETTER than gsic...! - Gaffer74 07:38:48 06/17/05 (0)
- Here's Positive's positive review of the Chip that y'all hate... to read. - clarkjohnsen 08:02:02 06/17/05 (23)
- excellent review - Par Time Punk 09:10:01 06/17/05 (22)
- Re: excellent review - Doc Gaw 09:27:27 06/17/05 (21)
- I take it you are Bill Gaw... - Wellfed 16:36:28 06/17/05 (2)
- Re: I take it you are Bill Gaw... - Doc Gaw 09:52:09 06/22/05 (1)
- Thanks Bill... - Wellfed 12:21:33 06/22/05 (0)
- Re: excellent review - Par Time Punk 09:56:42 06/17/05 (17)
- I am sorry about your hearing. nt - Norm 10:46:39 06/17/05 (16)
- There is an alternative. You may be affected by the placebo effect. - Norm 10:50:59 06/17/05 (15)
- Then it's affectations anonymous, since he isn't registered. nt - clarkjohnsen 11:08:26 06/17/05 (0)
- exactly - Par Time Punk 12:59:46 06/17/05 (13)
- The mind can both tell us we hear something and that we hear nothing. Glad you agree nt - Norm 13:28:48 06/17/05 (12)
- agreed. the effect of the chip is all in the mind. - Par Time Punk 14:06:37 06/17/05 (11)
- as is all sensory perception?? What is your point? nt - Norm 16:26:41 06/17/05 (10)
- His point is that the GSIC can't possibly work... - Wellfed 16:51:23 06/17/05 (9)
- Re: His point is that the GSIC can't possibly work... - Ken Perkins 21:20:23 06/17/05 (8)
- Nothing wrong with the saving the world from scam artists... - Wellfed 22:47:20 06/17/05 (7)
- "What emotion does this sort of thing trigger within you folks anyway?" PRECISELY! - clarkjohnsen 07:58:12 06/18/05 (0)
- Re: Nothing wrong with the saving the world from scam artists... - Par Time Punk 23:36:41 06/17/05 (5)
- Re: "It can't work; it doesn't work; it is nonsense." - geoffkait 05:43:49 06/18/05 (4)
- something for the weekend sir? - Par Time Punk 03:10:41 06/19/05 (3)
- Re: Ausgesheitnet ! - geoffkait 06:00:10 06/19/05 (2)
- Close, but no banana! - KlausR. 07:01:08 06/19/05 (1)
- Re: Mein Air... - geoffkait 07:50:25 06/19/05 (0)
- Easy to prove! - Blues_man 08:44:38 06/17/05 (29)
- Re: Ha Ha Ha - geoffkait 08:55:11 06/17/05 (28)
- Good to see the debunking of your most recent 'explanation' hasn't ruined your sense of humor. nt - bjh 09:20:42 06/17/05 (9)
- Re: what debunking? - that so-called debunkery was pure bunk! nt - geoffkait 09:26:52 06/17/05 (8)
- Is that so? - bjh 09:38:04 06/17/05 (7)
- Re: Yes ... - geoffkait 10:33:47 06/17/05 (6)
- How does a laser maintain a gaussian profile and coherence when reflected diffusively - jneutron 13:54:05 06/20/05 (1)
- Well ... - bjh 12:22:26 06/17/05 (4)
- Re: "He claimed" - geoffkait 13:15:16 06/17/05 (3)
- You are a funny guy ... oh and intellectually abhorrent as well. nt. - bjh 13:23:51 06/17/05 (1)
- Re: Bite me. Is that intellectual enough for you? nt - geoffkait 16:11:26 06/17/05 (0)
- Re: "He claimed" - Par Time Punk 13:30:42 06/17/05 (0)
- Re: Ha Ha Ha - Par Time Punk 09:34:24 06/17/05 (0)
- We have an old saying put your money where your mouth is - Blues_man 10:38:25 06/17/05 (1)
- Re: "I never get any takers." - geoffkait 10:44:49 06/17/05 (0)
- Let's put it this way, Geoff: better have a ready airline ticket - Bruce from DC 10:46:19 06/17/05 (5)
- Re: Good Joke! - geoffkait 10:54:56 06/17/05 (0)
- Hey, Bruce, isn't this Geoff guy... - TeddiJackEddie 12:49:19 06/17/05 (3)
- "People who prattle on endlessly about this chip" ROTFLOL! - clarkjohnsen 07:53:23 06/18/05 (0)
- Now, that's a plan TJE! - Bruce from DC 14:39:54 06/17/05 (1)
- Re: The Heart of the Beast - geoffkait 16:52:25 06/17/05 (0)
- Hey Geoff... - Jim Austin 12:07:51 06/17/05 (8)
- Re: Jim, it's a Catch-22... - geoffkait 13:02:00 06/17/05 (3)
- Works both ways I guess... - Jim Austin 13:29:48 06/17/05 (2)
- Re: I see your point... - geoffkait 06:10:58 06/18/05 (1)
- I haven't seen this assertion either... - Wellfed 08:18:10 06/19/05 (0)
- It's like the emperor's new clothes - Blues_man 13:13:00 06/17/05 (3)
- Re: It's like the emperor's new clothes - Par Time Punk 13:44:04 06/17/05 (2)
- I will continue to enjoy the REALITY of improved performance nonetheless... - Wellfed 17:13:16 06/17/05 (1)
- land of nod - Par Time Punk 23:57:11 06/17/05 (0)
- Repeat of my GSIC blurb . . . - Pjay 09:46:22 06/17/05 (0)
- To repeat a suggestion I made three months ago ... - Big Dave 10:31:47 06/17/05 (0)
- Re: GSIC observation and query... - jokekajr 10:39:33 06/17/05 (2)
- Yes it works on DVDs as well -- for those who prefer to trust their eyes. nt - clarkjohnsen 11:32:11 06/17/05 (1)
- I went to a Tweeters to see the DLP rainbow but could'nt. ;^( (nt) - soulfood 12:43:49 06/17/05 (0)
- Wellfed, you devil you. Are you trying to kill off the scam police? You need to be concerned with their blood pressure. - Norm 10:42:54 06/17/05 (1)
- Have you had any experience(s) with the GSIC that match... - Wellfed 21:51:51 06/17/05 (0)
- anyone want to buy a slightly used pyramid hat from 1978? (nt) - TommyK 11:03:49 06/17/05 (1)
- No, what I'd really like is... - Wellfed 21:24:55 06/17/05 (0)
- Why are you seeking a nonexistent explanation? - soulfood 11:47:00 06/17/05 (8)
- "If what you hear is a phenomenon, you should lower your expectations for meaningful answers." Huh? - clarkjohnsen 12:33:00 06/17/05 (1)
- Thanks for pointing that out. - soulfood 13:23:59 06/17/05 (0)
- existent explanation - Par Time Punk 13:27:06 06/17/05 (5)
- Search the archives for abundant discussion on the subject... - Wellfed 21:45:37 06/17/05 (4)
- Search the archives for abundant discussion on the subject - Par Time Punk 00:01:21 06/18/05 (3)
- It can, and it does... - Wellfed 22:23:24 06/18/05 (2)
- lord of the dance - Par Time Punk 02:36:31 06/19/05 (1)
- I find it a nuisance that you don't add any value to this particular discussion... - Wellfed 18:52:56 06/19/05 (0)
Follow Ups
- Thanks Dave... - Wellfed 21:13:04 06/18/05 (0)
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