In Reply to: RE: Which format would that be? posted by perceptiveengineering on September 8, 2012 at 16:54:39:
"And yes, CD was one of the most significant consumer format music delivery inventions of the 20th Century, along with the LP and the 7" single.
CD was a step backwards from the LP as the CD sonically is a big turnoff. As long as I can listen to music on SACDs, DVD-Audios, 24/96 DVDs, 24 bit high resolution downloads, LPs, reel to reel, and analog cassettes no one can force me to endure the tragic sound quality of CDs. No one, so back off, NO SALE!
"If you are speaking of CDs that is the worst thing that ever happened to music lovers IMHO."
This statement of mine is one of the most important statements made in the history of music reviewing, however Mark Levinson goes into greater detail of why.
Mark Levinson: CD vs. SACD and LP
"Most music lovers feel that there is something wrong with the CD. Many prefer the sound of their LP's, or have cut down or stopped listening to music without even realizing why. Classical CD's aren't selling, while LP's of the same repertoire fetch hundreds of dollars a copy. People used to have 20 or 30 LP's and enjoy them, while now, people have hundreds or thousands of CD's which they rarely listen to, and almost never hear all the way through. What's going on?
Research shows that the pulse code modulation (PCM), the operating system of the CD, has limitations that so far cannot be overcome. There is something about listening to sound that has been processed with PCM which is stressful - the opposite of what most people seek in listening to music."
"What's better, an Ampex 351 with tube record and reproduce electronics or an Ampex ATR-102 with solid-state record and reproduce electronics?"
I've not heard either in person myself, however many of my favorite LPs were made with Ampex 350 tubed reel to reel decks.
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Follow Ups
- Joy and Advantages of Listening to Music from Multiple Formats. - Teresa 18:42:22 09/08/12 (53)
- RE: Joy and Advantages of Listening to Music from Multiple Formats. - perceptiveengineering 19:14:25 09/08/12 (52)
- Those are very conservative specs - Teresa 01:28:04 09/09/12 (51)
- RE: Those are very conservative specs - perceptiveengineering 17:08:29 09/10/12 (3)
- RE: Those are very conservative specs - Tony Lauck 14:41:23 09/11/12 (0)
- You misunderstood what I said... - Teresa 18:40:37 09/10/12 (1)
- RE: You misunderstood what I said... - perceptiveengineering 19:36:13 09/10/12 (0)
- Bullshit - bjh 17:33:24 09/09/12 (46)
- RE: Your Bullshit post is complete bullshit. - Teresa 18:21:42 09/09/12 (45)
- RE: Your Bullshit post is complete bullshit. - bjh 19:51:14 09/09/12 (44)
- Here you go - Teresa 20:17:36 09/09/12 (43)
- RE: Here you go - bjh 07:28:55 09/10/12 (7)
- RE: Here you go - Tony Lauck 11:43:13 09/10/12 (6)
- RE: Here you go - perceptiveengineering 17:28:33 09/10/12 (2)
- RE: Here you go - Tony Lauck 09:35:47 09/11/12 (1)
- RE: Here you go - perceptiveengineering 19:21:47 09/13/12 (0)
- "Screen shots of these kind of plots can lead to false conclusions." Really? - bjh 13:39:00 09/10/12 (2)
- RE: "Screen shots of these kind of plots can lead to false conclusions." Really? - Tony Lauck 14:00:17 09/10/12 (1)
- RE: "Screen shots of these kind of plots can lead to false conclusions." Really? - bjh 16:22:45 09/10/12 (0)
- RE: Here you go - J. Phelan 21:13:27 09/09/12 (34)
- You could - and should - do better than citing Lavry's self-serving nonsense. - carcass93 10:54:17 09/10/12 (8)
- RE: You could - and should - do better than citing Lavry's self-serving nonsense. - Tony Lauck 11:49:30 09/10/12 (7)
- RE: You could - and should - do better than citing Lavry's self-serving nonsense. - perceptiveengineering 20:51:27 09/10/12 (6)
- Noise to the max... - rick_m 21:43:54 09/12/12 (0)
- RE: You could - and should - do better than citing Lavry's self-serving nonsense. - Tony Lauck 08:58:07 09/11/12 (4)
- RE: You could - and should - do better than citing Lavry's self-serving nonsense. - Inmate51 07:21:41 09/12/12 (3)
- RE: You could - and should - do better than citing Lavry's self-serving nonsense. - Tony Lauck 10:15:40 09/12/12 (2)
- RE: You could - and should - do better than citing Lavry's self-serving nonsense. - perceptiveengineering 19:41:42 09/13/12 (1)
- RE: You could - and should - do better than citing Lavry's self-serving nonsense. - Tony Lauck 07:12:55 09/14/12 (0)
- Sorry, you are wrong, very wrong - Teresa 22:13:41 09/09/12 (24)
- RE: Sorry, you are wrong, very wrong - Mike Mc 23:25:58 09/09/12 (10)
- More than two points of view - Tony Lauck 07:08:27 09/10/12 (9)
- RE: More than two points of view - rick_m 07:37:07 09/10/12 (8)
- RE: More than two points of view - perceptiveengineering 21:01:39 09/10/12 (0)
- Physical media = false sense of security - Tony Lauck 09:09:43 09/10/12 (6)
- RE: Physical media = false sense of security - rick_m 13:53:42 09/10/12 (5)
- RE: Physical media = false sense of security - bjh 17:23:41 09/10/12 (4)
- RE: Physical media = false sense of security - rick_m 22:02:37 09/10/12 (2)
- RE: Physical media = false sense of security - Tony Lauck 14:57:44 09/11/12 (1)
- RE: Physical media = false sense of security - Mike Mc 15:26:30 09/11/12 (0)
- RE: Physical media = false sense of security - perceptiveengineering 21:38:01 09/10/12 (0)
- RE: Sorry, you are wrong, very wrong - J. Phelan 22:54:08 09/09/12 (12)
- You can believe lies if you want, I instead believe the truth. - Teresa 23:36:21 09/09/12 (11)
- RE: You can believe lies if you want, I instead believe the truth. - J. Phelan 23:48:09 09/09/12 (10)
- Reference to Stuart's paper? That's strike #2 - Lavry reference being #1. - carcass93 11:36:02 09/10/12 (3)
- RE: Reference to Stuart's paper? That's strike #2 - Lavry reference being #1. - perceptiveengineering 20:10:05 09/10/12 (2)
- RE: Reference to Stuart's paper? That's strike #2 - Lavry reference being #1. - J. Phelan 20:13:32 09/10/12 (1)
- RE: Reference to Stuart's paper? That's strike #2 - Lavry reference being #1. - perceptiveengineering 20:40:46 09/10/12 (0)
- Sorry I forgot to name names. - Teresa 01:05:52 09/10/12 (5)
- RE: Sorry I forgot to name names. - calloway 16:58:59 09/11/12 (2)
- Incorrect assumptions, I have heard CD on the $17,000 Playback Designs player - Teresa 17:46:50 09/11/12 (0)
- RE: Sorry I forgot to name names. - J. Phelan 17:09:41 09/11/12 (0)
- RE: Sorry I forgot to name names. - perceptiveengineering 21:28:35 09/10/12 (0)
- RE: Sorry I forgot to name names. - J. Phelan 02:09:45 09/10/12 (0)