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In Reply to: So, if he liked what he heard, that would mean they are potentially even better away from the show? posted by Enophile on May 26, 2010 at 10:03:28:
Temporary room setup at shows "is" a big variable in the demonstrated sound. It is possible to get sound as good as a typical "long term" proper home or store setup, but this is rare. The show setup will not be better though.The poster was trying to knock the 3.6. I am sure the expensive Magico speakers are good. The Magico speakers probably will sound equally good with many other much less expensive amps. Valin's opinion of the Magico demo at CES has been disputed in his blog by others.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Is Valin an idiot or what? - Don_C 10:19:06 05/19/10 (117)
- RE: Is Valin an idiot or what? - silentsourceaudiocables 02:11:24 08/13/10 (0)
- Nah, he just looks funny; like me! nt - mrr 21:11:51 05/28/10 (0)
- Looks like the Greacian Formula has affected his technical brain. * - mr grits 12:00:39 05/27/10 (2)
- ......and your ability to spell apparently. nt - viridian 10:20:00 05/28/10 (1)
- RE: ......and your ability to spell apparently. nt - mr grits 11:51:16 05/30/10 (0)
- RE: Is Valin an idiot or what? - RGA 17:01:52 05/25/10 (18)
- Shows are "poor" places to judge equipment! nt - Don_C 22:52:34 05/25/10 (17)
- I disagree with this premise and IMO it is an excuse... - RGA 16:37:31 05/26/10 (11)
- piffle - plantsman 05:21:42 05/27/10 (10)
- RE: piffle - Brian Cheney 08:14:10 05/27/10 (8)
- I think you are missing my point - plantsman 08:30:01 05/27/10 (7)
- RE: I think you are missing my point - RGA 17:38:24 05/27/10 (6)
- Try to keep up - plantsman 18:39:19 05/27/10 (5)
- RE: Try to keep up - RGA 21:26:02 05/27/10 (2)
- RE: Try to keep up - carlos269 08:55:03 05/28/10 (1)
- RE: Try to keep up - RGA 16:58:20 05/28/10 (0)
- RE: Try to keep up - Eric B 21:05:20 05/27/10 (1)
- RE: Try to keep up - RGA 21:38:17 05/27/10 (0)
- RE: piffle - RGA 08:05:02 05/27/10 (0)
- So, if he liked what he heard, that would mean they are potentially even better away from the show? - Enophile 10:03:28 05/26/10 (4)
- RE: So, if he liked what he heard, that would mean they are potentially even better away from the show? - Don_C 10:29:49 05/26/10 (3)
- For someone you don't have much respect for... - mkuller 12:34:27 05/26/10 (2)
- Another reviewer defending reviewers! - Don_C 13:01:43 05/26/10 (1)
- RE: Another reviewer defending reviewers! - John Atkinson 14:24:21 05/26/10 (0)
- RE: Is Valin an idiot or what? - apollo66 21:25:18 05/24/10 (0)
- You should read... - John Atkinson 16:47:50 05/24/10 (2)
- Good stuff? - mkuller 21:22:54 05/24/10 (1)
- RE: Good stuff? - Stephæn 09:25:55 05/25/10 (0)
- Don C- Who's the "idiot" here (hint: it's not Valen) - Ned 12:04:36 05/24/10 (15)
- the ignorant and inexperienced find it easy to be intolerant -t - Sordidman 15:04:09 05/24/10 (4)
- You appear to be a fine example of your own comment. - Ned 16:55:40 05/24/10 (3)
- What are you talking about? - Sordidman 17:04:05 05/24/10 (2)
- Sorry, that wasn't clear... - Ned 17:26:31 05/24/10 (1)
- RE: Sorry, that wasn't clear... - Sordidman 18:35:19 05/24/10 (0)
- To put it mildly, you're easily offended. This ain't a Quilting Society meeting. nt - Rick W 14:43:49 05/24/10 (2)
- Quilting people are vicious. And they're handy with pointed implements. nt - keith_d 10:51:19 05/27/10 (0)
- No, it is the Ship of Fools - Frihed89 10:36:20 05/25/10 (0)
- Lighten-Up Ned........ - Eric B 13:37:59 05/24/10 (2)
- RE: Lighten-Up Ned........ - Grant 19:29:35 05/24/10 (1)
- Well said, Grant nt - Ned 10:13:39 05/25/10 (0)
- I am trying to expose him for the "Marketer" he is! - Don_C 13:18:37 05/24/10 (3)
- RE: I am trying to expose him for the "Marketer" he is! - DAP 19:27:54 05/26/10 (0)
- RE: I am trying to expose him for the "Marketer" he is! - jimmycj 08:23:53 05/26/10 (1)
- Can you cite examples to back that up? -t - Sordidman 14:33:55 05/26/10 (0)
- Didn't you really leave more room for responses than you meant to? - keith_d 13:36:39 05/23/10 (0)
- RE: Is Valin an idiot or what? - fafafion 20:55:04 05/21/10 (1)
- RE: Is Valin an idiot or what? - highendfan 19:35:09 05/25/10 (0)
- Nah, I think he's trying real hard to be HP's replacement. - DustyC 12:18:47 05/21/10 (4)
- Which he will never be - E-Stat 14:17:38 05/21/10 (1)
- Hey! - Charles Hansen 21:03:52 05/22/10 (0)
- HP is already "retired", he no longer owns The Absolute Sound. nt - Don_C 12:48:13 05/21/10 (1)
- RE: HP is already "retired", he no longer owns The Absolute Sound. nt - DustyC 13:04:16 05/24/10 (0)
- I much prefer reading about the exotic than the affordable. - shamburg 09:55:46 05/20/10 (1)
- Imagine... - Enophile 12:17:25 05/20/10 (0)
- RE: Is Valin an idiot or what? - Irishaudioboy 22:43:40 05/19/10 (8)
- Interesting.... - Enophile 12:20:43 05/20/10 (5)
- So...just how much sonic difference - mt10425 04:50:52 05/23/10 (4)
- Natural afro or artificial? - Enophile 16:30:37 05/23/10 (3)
- With JV, wouldn't it have to be atificial? - mt10425 16:41:35 05/23/10 (2)
- OK, then. Rainbow colored or monochromatic? - Enophile 16:59:03 05/23/10 (1)
- Given his salt & pepper goattee, - mt10425 03:42:40 05/24/10 (0)
- He's a better writer than you (or me)–who gives a fuck about his hair (nt) - shamburg 11:45:25 05/20/10 (0)
- Ha,ha,ha, - jihad 09:31:34 05/20/10 (0)
- "Technical Brain" amplifier: something to be desired in that name? - Elizabeth 16:38:22 05/19/10 (1)
- International marketing research lacking, - cdb 18:26:04 05/19/10 (0)
- Don't think so... - Grant 16:11:06 05/19/10 (12)
- Should he be evaluating State of the Art in a lousy room? nt - Don_C 20:38:44 05/19/10 (11)
- What's with you? - Grant 07:48:57 05/20/10 (5)
- RE: What's with you? - Don_C 19:01:05 05/20/10 (4)
- RE: What's with you? - mrr 08:34:02 05/21/10 (0)
- At the expense of confusing the issue with facts - E-Stat 19:05:08 05/20/10 (2)
- At least he didn't get snarky and ask - cdb 19:54:23 05/20/10 (0)
- My mistake nt - Don_C 19:34:07 05/20/10 (0)
- Your one-line responses aren't helping. - robert young 02:40:42 05/20/10 (4)
- RE: Your one-line responses aren't helping. - Don_C 17:56:31 05/20/10 (3)
- so it continues... - robert young 08:21:40 06/01/10 (0)
- RE: Your one-line responses aren't helping. - Blackout 14:39:37 05/23/10 (1)
- RE: Your one-line responses aren't helping. - lord addleford 15:12:21 05/23/10 (0)
- RE: Is Valin an idiot or what? - josh358 12:30:30 05/19/10 (6)
- Here is another opinion of one of Valin's reviews - Don_C 18:46:12 05/20/10 (3)
- RE: Here is another opinion of one of Valin's reviews - josh358 14:07:29 05/21/10 (2)
- Smock? - Sstone8807@aol.com 15:41:34 05/21/10 (1)
- RE: Smock? - josh358 15:53:09 05/21/10 (0)
- His opinion certainly carries more weight than some joker - Sordidman 13:18:37 05/19/10 (1)
- RE: His opinion certainly carries more weight than some joker - josh358 11:05:35 05/20/10 (0)
- I think he's turned his focus to amplifiers... - Charles Hansen 11:52:40 05/19/10 (6)
- RE: I think he's turned his focus to amplifiers... - josh358 15:12:08 05/20/10 (4)
- As a reviewer, Valin is... - Charles Hansen 21:18:23 05/22/10 (3)
- RE: As a reviewer, Valin is... - John Atkinson 10:44:31 05/23/10 (2)
- RE: As a reviewer, Valin is... - Eric B 10:09:37 05/25/10 (1)
- RE: As a reviewer, Valin is... - John Atkinson 08:07:14 05/26/10 (0)
- And... - E-Stat 12:57:21 05/19/10 (0)
- What did you think when you heard them? - Sordidman 11:38:31 05/19/10 (15)
- RE: What did you think when you heard them? - josh358 15:23:42 05/20/10 (2)
- RE: What did you think when you heard them? - lord addleford 16:50:41 05/20/10 (1)
- RE: What did you think when you heard them? - josh358 14:17:33 05/21/10 (0)
- He uses an "odd ball" recording of a Zither as his reference recording? nt - Don_C 11:54:51 05/19/10 (11)
- Not a Valin fan, but... - robert young 14:29:50 05/19/10 (0)
- More: What did you think of the amps when you heard them? - Sordidman 13:13:40 05/19/10 (9)
- Do you have to "hear" $50,000 cables to know they are B.S.! nt - Don_C 21:04:24 05/19/10 (8)
- Best that you can say is "don't know" until you experience them -t - Sordidman 08:43:27 05/20/10 (0)
- What's NOT BS is that you are underpowering those Maggies...... - Ozzy 07:16:22 05/20/10 (5)
- It is a MYTH that Maggies require massive power1 - Don_C 19:13:18 05/20/10 (4)
- "They "DO NOT" represent the vast majority of very satisfied magnepan owners." - volunteer 05:17:23 05/23/10 (0)
- RE: It is a MYTH that Maggies require massive power1 - ahendler 12:43:29 05/21/10 (2)
- RE: It is a MYTH that Maggies require massive power1 - Ozzy 02:31:36 05/24/10 (1)
- RE: It is a MYTH that Maggies require massive power1 - Don_C 22:59:46 05/25/10 (0)
- Answer - E-Stat 06:19:43 05/20/10 (0)
- I've heard those amps, they are, indeed, fantsastic sounding. - Enophile 11:10:59 05/19/10 (9)
- They are "absurdly" priced "insults" to the sensible audiophile! nt - Don_C 12:00:38 05/19/10 (8)
- I heard them without knowing the price. I still don't. Why should they have sounded "insulting?" - Enophile 10:41:43 05/20/10 (3)
- The amps in Valin's posts are $100,000 to $150,000. nt - Don_C 00:31:56 05/21/10 (2)
- RE: The amps in Valin's posts are $100,000 to $150,000. nt - silentsourceaudiocables 21:55:08 08/10/10 (0)
- RE: The amps in Valin's posts are $100,000 to $150,000. nt - Bar81 06:16:02 08/11/10 (0)
- RE: The amps in Valin's posts are $100,000 to $150,000. nt - silentsourceaudiocables 09:36:59 08/11/10 (0)
- 150K?!? Yikes! They are "absurdly" priced "insults" to the sensible audiophile! - Enophile 15:18:18 05/23/10 (0)
- value = sound quality? No! -t - Sordidman 08:44:27 05/21/10 (0)
- So they're outside of your income bracket, doesn't mean those with the means to purchase them, would agree - gme109 20:53:56 05/19/10 (0)
- And you are the ultimate arbiter of what is sensible? - Sordidman 13:16:58 05/19/10 (2)
- No! But the critics think they are! nt - Don_C 18:13:29 05/20/10 (1)
- no evidence of that either; you're batting 1000 -t - Sordidman 21:09:51 05/20/10 (0)
Follow Ups
- RE: So, if he liked what he heard, that would mean they are potentially even better away from the show? - Don_C 10:29:49 05/26/10 (3)
- For someone you don't have much respect for... - mkuller 12:34:27 05/26/10 (2)
- Another reviewer defending reviewers! - Don_C 13:01:43 05/26/10 (1)
- RE: Another reviewer defending reviewers! - John Atkinson 14:24:21 05/26/10 (0)