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RE: Say What!!!!

Posted by benie (A) on March 25, 2008 at 13:24:40

In Reply to: Peter Gunn and the World of Tomorrow posted by TheGoodCaptain on March 24, 2008 at 06:30:23:

I have been little disappointed in the way some threads get out of wack on this form and this has being going on for a while now and I believe someone even posted to that effect in the not to distance past.
But if I remember right, that even got twisted around.

I would say that this one falls into the wacky bin as well!!

Let me start by quoting the Good Captain on a few statements:

"The problem is the uneducated responses"

And what are your credentials!


"I bet Mister Gunn's responses might be a bit less heated if the critics actually knew what they were talking about. They haven't HEARD the speakers!"

And you also HAVE NOT!


" You've done your own tweaks. That's great. But don't act like the Gunn mods are something your familiar with 1st hand. You're in NO position to judge them at all."

I would say Davey Experience has merit, as he has tried something similar. You sir have not!


"Sure. But what does that have to do with anything. Still not sure what your beef is with Peter Gunn, but perhaps you should call him and work it out. Maybe send him flowers."

I might ask. What is your beef with Davey? Maybe you can send him flowers.!


"Do let us all know if you get to hear a pair of Gunned Magnepans. Until that point in time your comments are purely speculative. "

And so are yours!!


"but I do think this thread exposed something useful in the end,"

And what's that. Your not sending Davey a Christmas card!!


"Of course. I was being a bit sarcastic. There's virtually no way Davey's mods sounded like the Gunned speakers."

And how would you know, have you heard Davey's. Davey call the cops we now have proof someone broke into your house!!


"I have a friend that copied plans for a subwoofer. Almost everything was the same, cabinet and driver and the Xover, yet it sounded nothing like the original version I heard. Why did they sound different? Glue? Where the wood came from? Who knew. And that was a subwoofer, not something nearly as transparent as a planar speaker."

Next time get Davey to built it!! How do you think many products get better. It is by someone building one and doing it a little different or by taking an existing design and tweaking the hell out of it, just like Peter has. Peter Gunn took a stock Maggie to great heights. I'm sure it's not impossible to now take Peters and also tweak it a little.


"Davey has NO idea of what Gunned speakers sound like. And that's that."

And you my good sir also have no idea. Do let us know when you here a pair!! As far as Davey having an idea, well he has a much better one than you!!


"I have. And to be completely honest, it does sound like you have some sort of "issue" with Mr. Gunn"


And to be completely honest, it does sound like you have some sort of "issue" with Davey!!!


"Peter Gunn is not above critical comments. I'd just prefer that they had some sort of actual experience behind them...any at all. Please give me your 1st hand experience with Peter Gunn's work as I'm interested in trying these mods soon."

I think we covered that!! I'm still waiting to hear your first hand experience!!


"I sure can see a point....when it's based on something akin to actual listening experience with a given product."

Still waiting to here yours!!


"Dave, I think it's possible to discuss ANYTHING without 1st hand experience,"

You do seem to be doing a very good job of that!! Your point is well taken.


"The problem is the uneducated responses,"

I rest my case!!!




This post is not meant to discredit Peter Gunn or his mods. I have the highest respect for Peter and his Mods. I was on Peters list, but because of change in my financial picture, I had to withdraw. But if things are better in the future. I for sure will be knocking on Peter's door.

What this post is about is what I see as an attack on Davey by The Good (bad choice of words)Captain, Robert as he likes to call himself. Well Robert first why don't you list your system on AA so we can all wonder in amazement.

Peter is a big boy and has no problem expressing his opinion, :) lol I think we all know that, if he chooses not to he no doubt has his reasons, with one of them being someone slamming him. Sometimes his opinions are strong and there for can invite this type of rebuttal.


But Peter doesn't need a Fanboy like you to stir the pot. Someone like you who hasn't even heard his speakers. Peter has enough of a fan base of members who have actually heard and own his speakers!!!
Your comments to Davey in this thread repeated many times if Davey had 1st hand Experience with Peters Mods. Well isn't this the pot calling the kettle black. "YOU SIR HAVE NO 1st HAND EXPERIENCE" yet you are posting about the wonders of Peter's speakers!!

Since Peter has a good fan base with his Products and I believe rightly so.

I thought I might join the Davey Fan club :) lol. But unlike you my good Captain, I have been a closet fan of Davey for a while and before I was even a member. I was lurking in these pages for a few years reading about X-overs tweaks posted by Davey and posts by him and by members who also posted on the merits of Davy's designs and the quality of product.
Anywhere from a passive X-over to line level active X-overs and line level passive X-over that he either designed or designed and built for past members.
With members holding Davey's designs in very high regard some easy beating some Store bought active X-over's costing 2-3 grand at a faction of the price.
Davey hasn't been as active on this form as he used to be. But he certainly was in days gone by, and has helped many past members sort out X-over problems, long before most here even thought of yanking the stock Maggie ones out. Davey is one of the remaining guys that was in the fore front of redesigning + tweaking Maggie X-overs.

And if I want a speaker built, I'll get Peter to built them. but as far as his X-over, I already know what it is, because he has freely posted it.

But if I want any type of X-over built for my ETs or any other speaker.
I'll be knocking on Davey's door!!!

So my dear Good Captain, Davey in my book has a alot of credibility with also alot of credibility in the bank!!


You my Good Captain have "NONE"

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