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RE: Let's all chip in $5. We can alternate homes., posted on March 16, 2024 at 14:02:35
jimbill Audiophile Posts: 3079 Location: Texas Joined: May 31, 2004	wrap it and it would look like a Snicker's bar.

Blech. (nt), posted on March 16, 2024 at 16:48:18
reelsmith. Audiophile Posts: 13315 Location: CT Joined: June 7, 2005 Contributor Since: January 19, 2010	. reelsmith's axiom: Its going to be used equipment when I sell it, so it may as well be used equipment when I buy it.

If they sound as good as they look..., posted on March 16, 2024 at 18:01:12
musetap Audiophile Posts: 32328 Location: San Francisco Joined: July 8, 2003 Contributor Since: January 28, 2004	I don't wanna hear 'em! Still smarting from seeing them. "Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination"-Michael McClure

RE: If they sound as good as they look..., posted on March 16, 2024 at 22:44:59
willkayakforfood Audiophile Posts: 1010 Joined: November 30, 2010 Contributor Since: December 24, 2011	First thing I thought of—provided they live up to their hype—was the construction of a suitable acoustically transparent and visually opaque cloth cage to obscure the whole aesthetic disaster.

Those are fugly. Seriously fugly. nt, posted on March 17, 2024 at 07:12:27
Sondek Audiophile Posts: 9956 Location: Fort Worth Joined: May 17, 2000 Contributor Since: April 5, 2002

Love the concrete front wall treatment! ;) -nt, posted on March 17, 2024 at 07:55:51
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RE: Let's all chip in $5. We can alternate homes., posted on March 17, 2024 at 08:36:46
Analog Scott Audiophile Posts: 9933 Joined: January 8, 2002	They aren't getting up my stairs

RE: Let's all chip in $5. We can alternate homes., posted on March 17, 2024 at 08:52:58
Don Reid Audiophile Posts: 913 Location: Rural NW Georgia Joined: February 2, 2001 Contributor Since: April 1, 2010	In my considered opinion they are as ugly as snot on a dog turd. I dream of an America where a chicken can cross the road without having it's motives questioned.

RE: Let's all chip in $5. We can alternate homes., posted on March 17, 2024 at 11:16:49

chocolate_lover
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Only $5 Million for the gold version of these Hart Audio D&W "Aural Pleasures"

https://www.soundandvision.com/content/hart-audio-dampw-aura

RE: Let's all chip in $5. We can alternate homes., posted on March 17, 2024 at 11:24:36
Story Audiophile Posts: 11274 Location: NJ Joined: December 11, 2000	we will see who's the fat, stupid head in November and beyond

At least snot on a dog turd is honestly natural...., posted on March 17, 2024 at 13:23:00
musetap Audiophile Posts: 32328 Location: San Francisco Joined: July 8, 2003 Contributor Since: January 28, 2004	Unlike those monstrosities which seem both dishonest AND unnatural. They look like they are designed to upset nature and throw it off balance. "Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination"-Michael McClure

Perhaps..., posted on March 17, 2024 at 13:26:38
musetap Audiophile Posts: 32328 Location: San Francisco Joined: July 8, 2003 Contributor Since: January 28, 2004	A flammable one? Welcome back to The Asylum! "Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination"-Michael McClure

Industrial chic just never gets old..., posted on March 17, 2024 at 13:30:17
musetap Audiophile Posts: 32328 Location: San Francisco Joined: July 8, 2003 Contributor Since: January 28, 2004	Likely since it's born that way. "Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination"-Michael McClure

Hmmm..., posted on March 17, 2024 at 15:50:22

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Well, my semi-educated guess is that the "plurality" of woofer drivers are what accounts for the rather high 93dB sensitivity.

The impedance goes down to 2.5 Ohms at 40Hz... how interesting. I wonder what the phase angle is.

Aerial's 20T had a punishing combination down there of impedance and phase angle, with the result that, to the great surprise of some people, the highly vaunted Halcro mono amplifiers just ran out of steam; they made the 20Ts sound like "small loudspeakers."

However, the Plinius SA-250, with its ability to deliver 1KW per channel, came to the rescue there.

Let me put it this way, I have never heard a Vivid loudspeaker that I did not like the sound of... and I am sure that I would like the sound of this one as well.

I wish them all the best.

john

RE: Hmmm..., posted on March 17, 2024 at 17:30:43
willkayakforfood Audiophile Posts: 1010 Joined: November 30, 2010 Contributor Since: December 24, 2011	It's still ugly. ;)

Concrete all around, posted on March 18, 2024 at 08:34:19
E-Stat Audiophile Posts: 38989 Joined: May 12, 2000 Contributor Since: April 5, 2002	and glass in front. Would could possibly go wrong?

RE: Hmmm..., posted on March 18, 2024 at 09:41:15
tomservo Manufacturer Posts: 8709 Joined: July 4, 2002	That's just "Styling" but John was right about cubic volume, there is a 9dB/oct slope that ties the low corner Frequency, maximum possible sensitivity and box volume AKA "Hoffman's Iron law"

I wonder what the shipping cost of 2387 pounds would be ?, posted on March 18, 2024 at 11:40:25
Edp Audiophile Posts: 4632 Joined: September 23, 1999	Probably more than my $5 contribution Do you think a post n pile floor joists could withstand the weight of a car?

RE: I wonder what the shipping cost of 2387 pounds would be ?, posted on March 18, 2024 at 12:34:28
tomservo Manufacturer Posts: 8709 Joined: July 4, 2002	And some speakers are too heavy to be moved easily even on a slab floor. This one apparently delivered by air just a tad too close to the chair, second speaker arriving from the quarry in 22 seconds

Too nearfield for my tastes ;) -nt, posted on March 18, 2024 at 14:04:17
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The $tatement is made..., posted on March 18, 2024 at 16:56:16
musetap Audiophile Posts: 32328 Location: San Francisco Joined: July 8, 2003 Contributor Since: January 28, 2004	$ometmes that's all that matter$. "Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination"-Michael McClure

Multiple woofers in parallel, posted on March 18, 2024 at 17:13:25
Brian H P Audiophile Posts: 1426 Location: Oregon Joined: December 18, 2012	This seems to be a popular approach among upscale speaker designers to achieve high sensitivity with extended low frequencies. Unfortunately, it also results in brutally low impedance with nasty phase angles in the bass. Thus requiring heroic amplification with huge current reserves. Don't even think about running these off an SET amp!

RE: Too nearfield for my tastes ;) -nt, posted on March 18, 2024 at 17:32:13
tomservo Manufacturer Posts: 8709 Joined: July 4, 2002	Hey I like that! Would have been a bad day to have been sitting there

RE: Perhaps..., posted on March 18, 2024 at 20:14:38
willkayakforfood Audiophile Posts: 1010 Joined: November 30, 2010 Contributor Since: December 24, 2011	I always enjoy seeing your feline masters maintaining reasonable supervision over you, their loyal house staff. :)

Roald Dahl, posted on March 18, 2024 at 21:29:57
Bill the K Audiophile Posts: 8456 Joined: June 3, 2006	That picture looks like straight off the famous story Parson's Pleasure.A crushed speaker for us to take home. Bill

Hoffman's father was the famous Polish-American concert pianist, posted on March 19, 2024 at 09:09:59
John Marks Manufacturer Posts: 8007 Location: Peoples' Democratic Republic of R.I. Joined: April 23, 2000	The younger Hoffman had three degrees from Harvard. He was the "H" in KLH. john

RE: Hoffman's father was the famous Polish-American concert pianist, posted on March 19, 2024 at 13:14:51
tomservo Manufacturer Posts: 8709 Joined: July 4, 2002	Hey thanks for the history, a connection i didn't know. He must have been a very sharp guy to make that association that early, although I am always up against that darn "law" with things at work. Tom

The father was a student of Anton Rubinstein's..., posted on March 19, 2024 at 15:56:03

John Marks
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Anton Rubinstein founded the St. Petersburg Conservatory in 1862... .

When I took the music-history survey course at Brown University, it was taught by an older guy who, as a teenager, had heard the senior Hoffman play a recital. The young man was watching so raptly, and from down in front, so Hoffman "Broke the Fourth Wall" and said to the kid, "You must be a piano student."

At the end of the recital, Hofmann played some hugely difficult piece as an encore (I can't remember which piece) and as he stood to take his bows, he said to my future teacher "You have absolutely no idea how long it took me to learn that!"

Which always struck me a bit as indulging in self pity. Hey, it's hard to be a rock star, too!

john

RE: Hmmm..., posted on March 20, 2024 at 08:12:16

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"I have never heard a Vivid loudspeaker that I did not like the sound of..." Absolutely agreed. I attended most of the Rocky Mountain Audio Fests where Phillip O'Hanlon of On A Higher Note often exhibited with Vivid speakers and Luxman electronics. His rooms never failed to rank for me as one of the best at the show.

In fact, one of the best recorded music listening experiences I've ever had happened with a different exhibitor at the 2015 show. The equipment in that room was the Vivid B.1 speakers, Parasound Halo CD1, Grace Design M920 used as a preamp, and Luxman MQ88 amp. They played a recording I've heard many times, Grant Green's "Lazy Afternoon". There was just something about that room with that system. I was absolutely entranced throughout. I remember that when it ended the few people in that room just looked at each other. It really was extraordinary and I'm certain the Vivid B.1 speakers had much to do with that.

Must be a Rockport... (nt, posted on March 21, 2024 at 06:14:45
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RE: Let's all chip in $5. We can alternate homes., posted on March 21, 2024 at 13:21:05
ecl876 Audiophile Posts: 3438 Location: Bend, Oregon Joined: January 14, 2007 Contributor Since: January 28, 2012	I'd like to have these on the battlefield! The look alone (note the four cannon-like protrusions) would scare the hell out of the enemy!

RE: Hmmm..., posted on March 22, 2024 at 10:39:13

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At the end of it all, you'd have a 93db sensitive 1" dome tweet at the heart of the system. Surely this system will be multi-amped - but is all that low-end horsepower really needed with a single 1" dome being the limiting factor power wise? Hmmm...

I'm thinking that at a minimum they are taking advantage of the tight center spacing between the 1" and upper-mid dome to raise the high pass filter corner frequency up a half to a full octave higher.

If they're doing that, you could theoretically get a pro-rated tweeter power handling - perhaps even double?

When I used the Vifa DC26NC66 with truncated 4" mids in a WMTMW, I had mid-to-tweet center spacing at just over 3" - and I could play around with crossover frequencies at 3K or higher. This indeed allowed me to push the tweeter harder. Going higher also had the advantage of getting away from the higher Fs associated with this type of unit.

Fun stuff.

In any case, if I won the lottery I would never buy a 0.5M speaker.

I'd hire a competent designer and put $150K into engineering and split room and speaker costs 50/50.

I always chuckle at the idea of putting 0.5M speakers in what amounts to a concrete and glass dance hall with a minimalist sofa in the middle.

May as well buy a PA system at that point.

Cheers,
Presto

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