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Spotify or Tital?

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Posted on July 8, 2022 at 18:17:36

Rod M
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If I have it right, both cost $9.99 per month. Spotify is 320kps mp3 and Tital is claimed to be CD quality, so it should sound better on a nice system. If listening in a car, my experience is that 320kps gets to the range where it's hard to tell the difference without direct fast comparisons and even then,.....

So the main difference might be content assuming the UIs are more or less functional.

On another note, if we collapse all the digital and PC audio forums, what should we call it?

-Rod

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I'd just call it 'DIGITAL...-'

Chris Garrett

09:00:15 08/11/22

RE: Spotify or Tital?

Dave_K

07:14:09 07/13/22

Why not Qobuz ?

AbeCollins

11:55:37 07/13/22

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I'd just call it 'DIGITAL...-'

Chris Garrett

09:00:15 08/11/22

RE: Spotify or Tital?

Dave_K

07:14:09 07/13/22

Why not Qobuz ?

AbeCollins

11:55:37 07/13/22

Rod said Tidal vs Spotify

Dave_K

12:32:42 07/13/22

Ah, yes. Give the O.P. what he asked for ;-)

AbeCollins

13:17:03 07/13/22

Streamlined?... N/T

musetap

11:07:08 07/11/22

RE: Spotify or Tital?

zacster

09:59:43 07/10/22

Interesting about your Qobuz 'hi-res' streaming....

AbeCollins

17:28:07 07/10/22

RE: Interesting about your Qobuz 'hi-res' streaming....

Sibelius

11:23:30 07/11/22

sleeper

18:41:28 07/09/22

Are you a Vet?, posted on July 9, 2022 at 18:41:28
sleeper Audiophile Posts: 1177 Joined: May 21, 2002	Tidal discounts the monthly charge to $6 for Veterans.

RE: Spotify or Tital?, posted on July 10, 2022 at 09:59:43

zacster
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Spotify never sounds good to me while Tidal does.

My car supports Tidal at CD quality natively and it sounds better than every other option I've tried while driving. I can stream Qobuz while stationary using the browser at 24/192 and it sounds superb but it won't play while driving since the stream is recognized as a video stream, not audio, and all video is shut down for safety reasons.

We could just call it "All Things Digital".

Interesting about your Qobuz 'hi-res' streaming...., posted on July 10, 2022 at 17:28:07

AbeCollins
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My wife and I have a 'shared data plan' on our cellphones as it nets out to be significantly cheaper for us vs an unlimited plan as we don't stream that much. Videos and hi-res audio streaming would consume a good amount of that 'shared data'.

If we're going on a road trip and I want to play music or movies from my iPhone, I download them first from home Wifi before we depart for our trip so I can play them in offline mode. [Same for movies on the iPad].

Most all streaming services (including Tidal and Qobuz) have what is called offline mode and this is how we play our music in the car without actually streaming off the cellular data plan.

I'll have to try actual hi-res streaming from the cellular network in my car to see if it thinks its video in which case it shouldn't play while the car is in motion.

Streamlined?... N/T, posted on July 11, 2022 at 11:07:08
musetap Audiophile Posts: 32134 Location: San Francisco Joined: July 8, 2003 Contributor Since: January 28, 2004	, "Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination"-Michael McClure

RE: Interesting about your Qobuz 'hi-res' streaming...., posted on July 11, 2022 at 11:23:30

Sibelius
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Qobuz works in my Audi using the ATT in car wifi. It's not great, it's slow and intermittent even when scaling back the resolution to CD quality. Of course I live in Silicon Valley, where the internet connections are awful. In contrast I never had an issue with Spotify in the car, streamed perfectly, but then again it was MP3 quality. I got rid of Spotify, since I really don't listen to anything in the car anyway, and didn't use it at home after I signed up for Qobuz.

RE: Spotify or Tital?, posted on July 13, 2022 at 07:14:09

Dave_K

I'm now on Qobuz, but I used Tidal for about 6 years and Spotify for about 5 years before that.

Tidal
+ Better SQ
+ Artist pay is one of the highest in the streaming biz
- Search feature is bare bones
- No personalized recommendations. There's curated playlists and promoted albums, but the focus seems to be on new music.

Spotify
+ Better for music discovery. It's not as good as YouTube, but at least it has a machine learning program generating personalized recommendations.
+ Supported by everything
- Artist royalties are shit and they're not transparent about how they are determined

I also agree with you that 320Kbps is good enough for the car or portable speakers. If you're going to use the service on your main rig at home, get Tidal. If you know what you want to play and just need a service that provides it, I can also recommend Tidal. But if you want a service that helps you find something new to try, Spotify is better.

Why not Qobuz ?, posted on July 13, 2022 at 11:55:37
AbeCollins Audiophile Posts: 47003 Location: USA Joined: June 22, 2001 Contributor Since: February 2, 2002	Just curious Dave.... You recommended Tidal but your post says you're now on Qobuz after 6 years of Tidal. Is there a reason why you did not recommend Qobuz? I have Tidal and Qobuz and run both at home but I rarely use them in the car. Perhaps one is better than the other in the car? Better user interface? Better reliability? Thanks.

Rod said Tidal vs Spotify, posted on July 13, 2022 at 12:32:42
Dave_K	That's the main reason. Also, Qobuz is a little more expensive. I'm paying $12.99 monthly. That might make the difference if he's only going to use it occasionally e.g. for travel. Otherwise, if Rod is looking to use this in his main system, I would lean towards paying a little extra each month to get lossless hi-res from Qobuz.

Ah, yes. Give the O.P. what he asked for ;-), posted on July 13, 2022 at 13:17:03
AbeCollins Audiophile Posts: 47003 Location: USA Joined: June 22, 2001 Contributor Since: February 2, 2002	I should have payed closer attention. I think we're still waiting for Spotify to offer CD quality / lossless music. AAC or MP3 streaming at a high enough bit-rate is fine for the car but it seems like all the streaming services are starting to offer true CD quality.

I'd just call it 'DIGITAL...-', posted on August 11, 2022 at 09:00:15
Chris Garrett Bored Member Posts: 16691 Location: Miami, Florida Joined: October 9, 1999 Contributor Since: June 19, 2000	as that's a good catch-all descriptor, IMO and covers the most ground. Chris

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