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Compare Ribbon (Valhalla) To 8TC (Woven) Speaker Cables.

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Posted on October 27, 2023 at 12:20:13
escape2cfc
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Hi,

For the Users of Chinese made speaker cables. Please compare the Valhalla Ribbon Type cables to the 8TC Woven Type Cables? Also OCC Copper vs OCC Silverplated sound. I am playing though Klipschorns with Volti Audio Wooden Horns, Various amps/pre-amps. All Information greatly appreciated.

Chuck

 

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RE: Compare Ribbon (Valhalla) To 8TC (Woven) Speaker Cables., posted on October 27, 2023 at 14:07:08
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RE: Compare Ribbon (Valhalla) To 8TC (Woven) Speaker Cables., posted on October 28, 2023 at 08:36:18
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With your total collection of gear and the two mentioned speakers, I don't think there's going to be a one size fits all solution. Even here in my case, I have several different speaker cables that rotate in and out of my two systems. I have 3 sets of Chinese Valhalla's, (2 V1's and a V2) Kudos KS-1's, CRL Bronze, Zu Mission, Wywire Blue's, Mogami 3103 and the quiet underrated "sleeper" Nordost Super Flatline. This not to mention a boatload of jumpers. Frankly I rotate thru all of them depending on my mood and equipment combination. If I were to try a Kimber-type, I'd go with Danny Richie's (GR Research) design. If your source components and amplification are in good synergy, you can fiddle with a plethora of speaker cables and get good results. In the end it's simply going to be a choice determined by you and your ear.

 

RE: Compare Ribbon (Valhalla) To 8TC (Woven) Speaker Cables., posted on October 28, 2023 at 09:46:33
escape2cfc
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Hi,

I totally agree and have been experimenting for a while... Tubes in, tubes out. I/C and Speaker cabling also. I am specifically interested in Comparisons between the Ribbon (Chinese Nordost) and Braided 8/12 TC (Chinese Kimber). I am looking for some direction/opinions to guide me. The Valhalla 2 certainly can be costly. Thanks for Your Input.

Best Regards,
Chuck

 

RE: Compare Ribbon (Valhalla) To 8TC (Woven) Speaker Cables., posted on October 28, 2023 at 13:40:34
Mick Wolfe
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A review of the Chinese Kimber knock-off by Jay (Jay's iyagi) indicated is was not the equal of the real Kimber. Being that quite a few here have had good success with the Chinese Valhalla 1, it would appear to be the safer bet on the cheap. I would check the comments here and see where most have bought their V1's at AliExpress. There's always confusing groups of sellers at AliEx with varied prices.

 

RE: Compare Ribbon (Valhalla) To 8TC (Woven) Speaker Cables., posted on October 28, 2023 at 13:54:34
escape2cfc
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Good info, Sound Advice (pardon the pun). Certainly appears the Valhalla variants are getting the thumbs up. The Valhalla 2 certainly sports a higher price... Thanks Again.

 

RE: Compare Ribbon (Valhalla) To 8TC (Woven) Speaker Cables., posted on October 28, 2023 at 17:01:54
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It's been discussed here before, I think, but from what I've seen the Valhalla (sometimes referred to as the Valhalla 1) is actually a copy of the Heimdall while the Valhalla 2 at least by conductor count is a copy of its namesake. Hence the higher price.


Joe

 

That's not a ribbon, THIS is a ribbon!, posted on October 30, 2023 at 23:35:00
Jon L
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Valhalla 1, 2 are technically not ribbons, just a bunch of round wires in parallel. I do quite like the sound of Chi-Fi Valhalla 2, more than the round Chi-Fi Odin 2, but compared to my true ribbon Silversmith Fidelium (and my Silversmith Silver cables), certain ribbon sound characteristics are not the same..

 

RE: That's not a ribbon, THIS is a ribbon!, posted on October 31, 2023 at 07:43:40
escape2cfc
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Beautiful Audio Jewelry! Thanks for Sharing...

 

RE: Compare Ribbon (Valhalla) To 8TC (Woven) Speaker Cables., posted on October 31, 2023 at 12:12:56
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Chinese Valhalla 1 SC beats every cable I've heard in my system by hundreds of miles.
Chinese 12TC rca interconnect I once bought out of curiosity is the worst interconnect I own.
The exact " Valhalla » I bought is now at very reduced price, see link

 

RE: Compare Ribbon (Valhalla) To 8TC (Woven) Speaker Cables., posted on October 31, 2023 at 18:29:02
escape2cfc
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Thank You Joe for that Clarification..

 

RE: Compare Ribbon (Valhalla) To 8TC (Woven) Speaker Cables., posted on October 31, 2023 at 18:34:07
escape2cfc
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Hi,

Please Resend a Link for the Valhalla you purchased. The one you included didn't work at all. Thanks!

 

RE: Compare Ribbon (Valhalla) To 8TC (Woven) Speaker Cables., posted on November 4, 2023 at 09:14:41
escape2cfc
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Good Point! Very apparent now! Greatly appreciated....

 

RE: Compare Ribbon (Valhalla) To 8TC (Woven) Speaker Cables., posted on November 5, 2023 at 22:57:19
KanedaK
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Sure, here it is:

 

RE: Compare Ribbon (Valhalla) To 8TC (Woven) Speaker Cables., posted on November 10, 2023 at 15:43:28
escape2cfc
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I have a a pair coming.. Thanks..

 

RE: Compare Ribbon (Valhalla) To 8TC (Woven) Speaker Cables., posted on November 10, 2023 at 20:56:25
KanedaK
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Great. Let us know what you think of them!

 

I second that....nt, posted on November 11, 2023 at 07:01:47
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Nt.

 

RE: Compare Ribbon (Valhalla) To 8TC (Woven) Speaker Cables., posted on December 18, 2023 at 05:17:37
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I jumped into the Chi-Fi cables last year starting with Odin 2 coax-WOW! Eventually worked my way to speaker cables. Not being a fan of 'ribbons'(they roll up) I bought the Odin 2s, which in my system were very detailed, but a little dry. FYI, I moved them to my video system and have no complaints. I replaced these and XLRs with Odin gold, both of them add needed warmth in my main rig

YMMV

 

RE: Compare Ribbon (Valhalla) To 8TC (Woven) Speaker Cables., posted on December 19, 2023 at 09:41:12
escape2cfc
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Thanks...

 

RE: Compare Ribbon (Valhalla) To 8TC (Woven) Speaker Cables., posted on December 19, 2023 at 10:51:10
escape2cfc
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Hi,

I ended up buying https://www.ebay.com/itm/115615227572 3.5m speaker cables. They have 9 silver-plated conductors on each channel. Also very well made banana Termination. Very Pleased with the Sound and Value.. Thanks for all the responses and recommendations.

Merry Christmas!

 

RE: Compare Ribbon (Valhalla) To 8TC (Woven) Speaker Cables., posted on December 23, 2023 at 07:22:00
escape2cfc
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Location: Gulf Coast
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Hi,

I ended up buying https://www.ebay.com/itm/115615227572 3.5m speaker cables. They have 9 silver-plated conductors on each channel. Also very well made banana Termination. Very Pleased with the Sound and Value.. Thanks for all the responses and recommendations.

Merry Christmas!

 

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