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Pinging Tangram _ Jon L.

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Posted on March 15, 2023 at 10:33:27
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Hello young men,

I'd like to know what were the results of placing your Copper Colour silver plated copper AC | IEC connectors onto the Accuphase 40th Anniversary Chinese clone power cord?. I'm curious more than anything | as I've found myself rather reluctant to change the stock Gold Plated Brass one's, concluding they might actually help with the overall sound of this cord as it stands, and if anything thinking maybe sticking a set of Monosaudio Gold Plated Copper one's on it, might maintain its overall balance without losing to much of its inner beauty | tonality | textural shadings?.

Jon L.

I spotted the Monosaudio P902 power cord in one of your last post, and wonder if you've had enough time with it to have gained insight into its sounds?, especially as you've gone with the un-plated copper plugs on both ends.

 

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RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on March 15, 2023 at 11:19:05
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As per my current visit to Head-Fi | based upon said Monosaudio P902 PC:

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Incoming today was my Monosaudio P902 99.998% OFC Copper AC cable as recommended from the Audio&Video Cable Store.
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256802405474903.html

It's a very solid robust cable, thick and pleasing to the eye. IMO it's a solid pearl of a performer, outclassing my (authentic-knockoff) Odin Gold AC cable. Instantly there was something I liked even better about the sound, akin to an even blacker background with even more proper bass and natural character to the treble :). The Odin Gold is now shelved, thanks to this affordable monster of sound, and I think the edge it gives may be related to improved shielding, vs. a sort of wonky / fake shielding of the former.

Although exceptional bass and mids right off the bat, the treble was a bit hot at first, but for me that was evened out with a half width (1") of Silver Faraday Fabric Tape wrapped around the base of the socket only on the power source side, and closest to the power source itself. I tried full and partial wraps of the silver tape on both sides, and just that 1" was my favorite. I also tried blue-tack dots on both sides but that was not preferred. So far I've only tried this into my DDC which is also via a Flux-50 inline power filter after it, but for now ain't movin' this, just let it burn in.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on March 15, 2023 at 19:31:52
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Still evaluating this P902 power cord with copper plugs. Good news is it has not been kicked out of the system right away, so its sound has no glaring faults or major deficits at least.

These arrived from Ali, and looks good so far.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on March 16, 2023 at 12:33:45
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Great news Jon L.

On both items I'd add..., as I picked up a set of the clone Xhadow RCA Connectors awhile back | merely based upon their appearance. And once again while I'm not the type that knows shite about soldering, I wanted them just in case I've a pair of IC's built on my behalf, I'd rather have items standing by beforehand | than having to get them at the last moment.

Keep me ( us ) posted.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on March 19, 2023 at 04:48:22
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So I did change from the supplied connections by swapping out the blade/housings. To the copper colour solid silver ( not plated ) plug and solid copper IEC (
Viborg). Quite simply the musical flow was gone, the sound became rather coloured particularly on piano/ sax. Not a good combo at all, resorted back to the stock connectors and voila , the glory returned. I compared the all 40th to a copper colour all silver plug/IEC on Odin silver powerchord with my DAC, I still prefer the Odin on this as the dac opens up further with soundscape , nuances/details/ Timbre.
Time will tell, I need more time here and asses where is best, all good fun however slowly is surely to avoid frustrations that can arise if you loose reference as where you were .



 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on March 19, 2023 at 08:52:25
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Tangram,

Thanks for said follow upon this matter, as I've feared " it's best to leave the Accuphase 40th Anniversary PC, stock connectors intact " | or at the very least possibly try a set of IeGO Power 8085 gold plated copper connectors | as I've to assume once again its use of initial gold plated brass plating were in fact chosen during the voicing process.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on March 19, 2023 at 12:00:11
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I will try the Copper colour silver plug only next and leave in the IEC original.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on March 19, 2023 at 12:28:43
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It's certainly worth a try..., as I'm a long proponent of silver connectors myself | just began exploring rhodium plated copper ones within the last two months, where I exchanged one onto my Viborg MBU 1501 on the AC Male side, while leaving its pure copper IEC along | as placed onto several integrated amps and was stunned by what I heard | so much so...-, I've decided to leave the cords as is for said application.

Now getting onto the gold plated copper ones is another adventure for me | as warmth and lushness is something I can do without in my system | yet as mentioned the Accuphase 40th Anniversary stock plugs does offer a certain balance which strikes me as beautiful | I'd hate to lose this sense of synergy between them and said cord. So it seems I had totally forgotten about the Monosaudio plugs, which are cheaper than said IeGO Power ones, so I'll give them a shot first.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on March 23, 2023 at 12:08:51
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Today I changed out the stock brass plated plug and iec for the silver copper colour plug (again) but now with the silver copper colour iec. This is quite an improvement with much improved transient response, and extending the top end, cymbals now are much more vibrant. The overall sound is now more alive sounding and engaging, I could well leave this as is now since it holds me there. I have concluded that the pure silver plug is not a good Match with the copper iec.
All conducted on my allnic phono stage, I have yet to try on the dac though. Iam in a vinyl mood at the moment so unlikely to have the dac fired up for a while!
I also ordered a couple of meters of the xangsane 9001 ag for making up some balanced cables from preamp to phono stage. It's such a good price so why not he says

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on March 23, 2023 at 12:21:46
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Tangram,

Great follow upon said matters | seeming as I was waiting to hear ( see ) your findings on the plug plating types to use?, and seeming as I've collected enough plugs with the exception of gold plated copper ones..., I'm glad I ended up with a spade IeGO 8095 pure silver - rhodium plated AC Male | IeGO 8065 silver plated copper IEC Female | as well as a few from SonarQuest, which are reported to offer heavier layering of silver plating atop their plates ( blades ) of which definitely look the part and are viewed as on par with the connectors from Viborg of which I've no doubt.

Onwards | Outwards.

Thanks Brotha Tangram.
O_o.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on March 23, 2023 at 15:33:11
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Just ordered another @ the Event price, I will swap out the blades on this one to copper unplated all round.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on March 23, 2023 at 16:50:00
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You're aware they're sold on eBay, by an American seller, right?.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on March 24, 2023 at 03:24:11
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Admittedly I had forgotten this! Never mind it's on the way .

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on March 24, 2023 at 08:55:43
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Understood.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on March 24, 2023 at 09:28:02
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Understood.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on April 24, 2023 at 08:20:12
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This could well be my next venture, it describes the xlr or rca pins being copper base metal, I could use these if the whole purchase is no good and use them to terminate the Xangsane 9003ag.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on April 24, 2023 at 08:49:10
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Wonderful looking plugs indeed.

I ended up buying a pair of the cloned Accuphase MCD 103 Hybrid IC's , copper..., merely based upon their overall appearance | I believe they were around $40, merely based upon what I heard from their 40th anniversary power cord, of which hasn't been removed from the system, as I'm very very taken with its sound, period. It's one of the best sounding pure copper PCs I've heard to date, regardless of price..., it's a keeper in my book.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on April 25, 2023 at 02:46:31
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Yes and the pricing is just crackers!

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on April 25, 2023 at 08:09:37
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please provide a link on the accuphase PC and IC

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on April 25, 2023 at 08:47:49
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I can't do this with Alixpress, just do a search, mine were from The audio connector store.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on April 25, 2023 at 09:25:12
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It ( they ) most certainly are.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on April 25, 2023 at 09:33:14
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The power cord is shown here via an American seller:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/115582660435?hash=item1ae9436f53:g:Wn0AAOSwRaNjdt2E&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4NsAPkJq66O%2BlI11uhOLuRye8u3C6rhTvtzULVlzFkLnW1uq%2BPLSb1Gxilor%2Fro6H32EL16Sac1j%2BuX6JW7YCvWFI6JhHJUWVmOc5352k4jijHcGopsXfbxFuTSrgvNT865OHqetRVpYmA3OhDK98ptJbl5OlmItmhlmaG8trKJoDcqPxpXnnJVwycL69LjaJerG%2F1F%2FBUmvWnn3yqMqtGW1uYz3g0I8%2BuHv%2BoCD97Cc5XDrOzE5bYeIuZdLM%2B0NPwJUWLAT40ab7LBsNOtLEuGhkfMyVzRnRQ36KoMX0eHq%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-SCm5P3YQ

The hybrid IC's I purchased are shown here ( yet can be found cheaper on AliExpress ):

https://www.ebay.com/itm/203840185402?hash=item2f75d2643a:g:Px4AAOSwdspjeE4U&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA8Gd%2FvfokVMcv6wqLJkVs%2FYv9HBpbQa2n%2B%2BexHC1hreyA%2B7pztvOXvb1vUxECbMymYUkghc9NWjXUkJNSjYsHU0FUSqHCCZjMf9Gr6lVPBpMFyVmdWmpUWydov7oRAU5ufjhi67oYRGQIDT%2BQLPzoHN%2BlImzoyOgu0fnTKGwGsRh1nThrYMNEMY%2Fi2cetaws%2BeZm0BtAlQFUsCJzmM6dMpMljcgYf6BshT%2F4itOiyM6PMWpcVuRXlhDYUJyAxIG8REudz94fkH5ZXrhe%2FWFvImILyopHGkoHo0OwZZO%2Fy7jNJN2xeHi5rPwAp6Qi1oDGkiA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR47FiZT3YQ

Tangram balanced version shown here:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/385466156951?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=qtbigqx-row&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=12wYTLIlRo-&var=653320778626&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

I hope this helps?.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on April 25, 2023 at 10:00:33
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I don't know which pair of IC's you're referring to?, as there are both balanced | unbalanced ones mentioned in our conversations, but here again is the ones I own:

US $34.56 4% Off | Accuphase Double gold interconnect Audio Cable RCA Plug product hifi CD amplifier amp Vinshle 1.0m/ 1.5m

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mMpgrm4

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on April 25, 2023 at 11:22:33
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Tangram,

If it isn't asking too much?, would you mind telling me what are your digital source components? | amplification? | Speakers?.

Just curious as to how you're listening?, as you don't seem to have listed anything in the inmate system section.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on April 26, 2023 at 02:16:21
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Digital is neodio, amps are allnic,unison research and topping. Spk are a DML panel by Podium mk2 version supplemented with a Arendal 1723 2s sub and antimode.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on April 26, 2023 at 09:21:13
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Nice kit, keep on keeping' on.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on April 26, 2023 at 10:34:16
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Here is a pic of the argento flow master reference next to the copper colour silver plug and Neardost silver Odin, the argento has been sold and the silver Odin replaced by Accuphase 40th.
Mind boggling I know. BTW the argento are the real Mcoy! However I did not loose any money when I sold on. I also had the flow and found it lifeless.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on April 26, 2023 at 11:38:36
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Tangram,

As always..., thanks for sharing. Judging from the look of the layout of your AC receptacle, I'm assuming you don't reside in the USA?, based on the fact the carbon fiber receptacle is turned sideways, yet I'd be wrong?.

Might I ask what do you use to clean the pure silver AC blades on the Copper Colour connector?, some form of silver cleaning solution?, or wipes?. Very neatly laid out as well.

And where do you feel offers the best benefit with said silver plated copper PCs?, as mentioned earlier | I only use three components where to date, only the DAC uses said type of cord..., as the Accuphase 40th Anniversary, I'm to assume because of its heavier gauge than the older Odin Gold ( 17AWG ) is much more responsive on the Aurender server, where I remain very very impressed by its overall sense of musicality | rightfulness tonality wise.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on April 26, 2023 at 12:46:57
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I always use Kontak audio cleaning fluid. I like the all silver on all, depending the choice of chord is correct of course. As stated I will be trying the Rhodium monosaudio . A problem with the argento which were rhodium plated was that the plating did rub off , down to the bare copper , and only after half a dozen or so in and out. Most unsatisfying , given the cost.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on April 26, 2023 at 13:31:25
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Thanks as always Young Man.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on May 10, 2023 at 07:13:21
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So I made up my 5 meter set of xlr using the Xangsane 9003ag, after around 90 hrs continuous hrs it was time to evaluate, replacing the 1 meter set of 9001 ag between my phono and preamp yielded instantly lowering of colourations throughout, Coltrane sax is fuller now with a kind of darkness that was present, much lowered now, just so much fuller and much more musically engaging, double bass boogies much more while cymbals are larger with more decay and believability. Indeed quite special El 34. Definitely the most resolute and musically engaging I have experienced here.
Then I returned the 9001ag between phono and preamp and replaced the Neardost odin gold long interconnects with the 5 meter 9003ag. The magic was lost, they were showing up the re insertion of the 9001ag upstream I guess.
So now I will just go back to 9003ag between phono and preamp and Odin gold between the preamp and poweramp to restore the magic and now order a I meter set of 9003ag bulk wire to replace the 9001ag and then compare the long lengths of 9003ag V Odin gold.
Not too far away now!!!

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on May 10, 2023 at 11:22:37
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Tangram,

Thanks for offering your take on said cabling comparison | following upon it.

I had once again felt there would be differences heard on your end, yet not to the point as you stated the magic was lost in placing the SP-9001Ag IC's between your preamp ( but I'd have to assume because of the more relaxed | delicate signature of the Odin Gold..., allows for a slightly richer | warmer sense of tonality goes a long ways in having restored said balance as you've noted ) | power amp, but in hindsight that's why I've come to believe for years the most important pair of IC's ( which makes or breaks the system ) are for me the ones connected at the source, in my case the DAC going into either of my integrated amps which have been rotated into the system, as I can't say I personally miss those days of using separates during the periods between 1989-1997, and have chosen to merely simplify things | my life and staying committed to said integrated's.

Yet I'm still curious to know how either the 9003Ag or 9001Ag would serve as a pair of SCs?, as I'm thinking either using sterling silver would ideally offer better sonics, as compared to silver plated copper!, of which I've been watching the Grey Knight 6008Ag fairly cheap as chips SCs, just in case I decide to give both them and their matching IC's a try?, purely based upon how impressed I'm with his power cord | which is here for life.

As always | extremely nice report on said matters.
Thanks again for your willingness to share.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on May 11, 2023 at 04:01:20
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Hello People,

I haven't posted recently. I have lived with the Nearost silver for two months on al my components, but I found my system sounded a bit choked. The silver foil on everyconductor did make my system very quiet and I also heard less distortion. But cymbals didn't decay very well.

I went back to Ramm Amadeus 5. Bigger soundbubble, less choking at the expanse of the ultimate black backdrop. But the decay of cymbals (and other sounds) is more natural.

The Neardost would be perfect for me if 1) the silver foil would be thinner 2) instead of 1 conductor of 16 awg, it would be like the Ramm 6 x 20 AWG silver plated OCC conductors. 3) the microfilament would be thicker around the conductor. (more seperation)

Still a good cable for the money, but the Ramm is better.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on May 11, 2023 at 04:19:29
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I have experimented also with carbon and alu-shells. My 'conclusion' is simple. Combine a shielded cable with shielded connector. And also the weight is very important. I haven't heard a difference between carbon and alu, but with polycarbonate there was a tiny difference. (blacker background, more air around individual sounds). And the 'weight' made the bassdrum sound more pronounced. Microphonics must not be forgotten. The connectors are all fit tight in there sockets with some tape or rubber. No wobbling and I gained more basscontrol and focus.

I had 4 x C-004 IEC connectors with polycarbonate and changed them with some Audiocrast carbon shells. On the Schuko still happy with the alum VF512R form Viborg.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on May 11, 2023 at 11:51:44
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Hello Judith,

There you're..., I was praying things were okay on your end, as one never knows how the weather might act in certain parts of the world, or even more importantly how one's health holds up?.

Once again, I urge you to try either the Grey Knight GK-6008Ag or Xangsane P-6008Ag ( once again this version color choice didn't do it for me ) yet I'll go on record once again in saying the GK-6008Ag power cord using your preferred method with a rhodium AC Male | copper IEC Female became so obviously better than any other silver plated copper PCs I've used prior | whereas I've also chosen to live with the Accuphase 40th Anniversary cord in place as it has become a reference of sort when it comes to pure copper used in said manner as it relates to a power cord, to say I remain impressed is an understatement.

Take care of you ( as the wife likes to put it ) and write home more often | as you've been missed.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on May 13, 2023 at 09:47:54
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After the initial listening between 9001 and 9003, the 9001 went back in position between phono and preamp and then the 9003 replaced the Odin gold ( this is where I always intended to be ) they were left here where further listening commenced.
Much improved from day before which flags up to me ( more than any other cables ) that much greater benefit is achieved from leaving as is and leave overnight and to evaluate when this is achieved?
Simply the 9003 is an absolute revelation and it will take a while for my grey matter to adjust, the sheer control this has, it just takes everything in its stride but it's the lowering of colourations that realy shines through, allowing much more of the music being heard with new tonal contrasts and dynamic shadings heard now aplomb , much improved listener involvement, and goosebumps aplenty. I understand now where you are coming from EL34. To compare against the Odin gold is now pointless, where I will be desoldering the xlr and reusing. I can't wait to do the completion between the phono and preamp with the incoming 9003 bulk wire incoming.( then I can compare again also between the 9001 and 9003 and know for sure also about a settling period being more apparent here.
Regarding as a speaker wire, yes I did try, right at the start before making into xlr. They were inserted and poweramp left on for approx 3 and half days, with a couple of sessions. The sound was rather congested, with not too much dimensionality, they were just ok. Of course being 5 metres each and their gauge would not help here, it would have been entirely different if the lengths were halved again so as to have 4 x 2.5 metres so having 4x .5 millimetre conductors twisted. Iam certainly very keen here to pursue and even try the actual speaker silver wire they do . I just need to sell some of my sundries lying around.
The reason for 5 meter interconnect is because my system sounds much better when the ancillaries/ stand is at the side and not in between the speakers.
I was of the opinion just like you EL 34 regarding integrated amps as my allnic and unison research are both like this, however this changed somewhat from January with my solid state purchase, but that's another story!
A big thankyou El34 Iam over the moon I took your advice and try Xangsane silver!
ANYONE READING THIS, YOU DO NEED TO TRY THIS SPECIAL CABLE,IT REALY IS VERY SPECIAL AT ANY PRICE.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on May 13, 2023 at 10:43:51
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Tangram,

As always thanks for the kind words | as you've discovered it makes sense to leave things as is, I'm very very reluctant to change out IC's | while I've collected 9 pairs of them since this time last year, the others are purchased out of curiosity | because I've come to believe they're each worthy of ownership | yet more often than not will have to wait their turn to make it into the system ( as it's usually takes 10-18 months before I even feel the need to explore said possibilities ) and while I'll occasionally sell a pair here and there..., it's a means of sharing, versus trying to push garbage on anyone, as that simply isn't the way I was raised.

Thanks for the following upon on said cables used as SCs, as I had already gauged that if I were to once again try another pair ( as I've 6 pairs which aren't currently being used ) it would in fact be a 4M pair of the Xangsane SP-6008Ag version, as I don't find their color choice here as offensive as with the power cord, which cord a mere $98, in my mind I'd always rather know, than not:

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805109005594.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.0.0.43115937W4cfbS&gps-id=pcDetailFavMayLike&scm=1007.12873.274955.0&scm_id=1007.12873.274955.0&scm-url=1007.12873.274955.0&pvid=ef0c07e1-0ac9-49e3-959c-cae3a9f536cb&_t=gps-id%3ApcDetailFavMayLike%2Cscm-url%3A1007.12873.274955.0%2Cpvid%3Aef0c07e1-0ac9-49e3-959c-cae3a9f536cb%2Ctpp_buckets%3A668%232846%238113%231998&isseo=y&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21USD%2174.0%2137.0%21%21%21%21%21%402103011716839998786537226e18fb%2112000032528035971%21rec%21US%21914216663&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa

Like the logo for LG Oled TVs, " Life's Good ", especially when we're open-minded enough to learn said truths for ourselves.

Take care young man | until next time..., may your life | household be filled with joy | harmony.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on May 14, 2023 at 09:20:55
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Tangram,

I'd like you know why you've chosen Copper Colour pure copper power plugs over their rhodium plated copper options?, is there something about the sonics of said pure silver connectors you just like or hear more from said purity of this metal?. As I've a set of their red copper plugs | I'm thinking of buying a sold rhodium plated AC Male..., as I've read on various forums many prefer them to the current Viborg copper makes, due to what Duster had reported sometimes ago regarding the added layer of some sort of deoxidize based substance onto the blades.

Currently Judith | Jon L recommended | proven as far as I'm concerned use of said tandem of rhodium ac | copper iec plugs ideally fit into what I now hear as " Mi-Absolute ", so those few silver plated copper IeGO | SonarQuest | Vanguard plugs remain boxed up. I'm even thinking of just buying this set ( and exchange the iec female plug out for the one I already have ):

https://www.ebay.com/itm/382965615275?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=ef7Kt2EkRcy&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=12wYTLIlRo-&var=651618478783&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

And..., it's a big " AND ", please don't overlook the Xangsane P-6008Ag or Grey Knight GK-6008Ag power cords to add even more layering | depth | separation of notes to the mix, this I once again have to believe simply is one of those items one needs to understand | commit to based upon its sense of uniqueness | beauty..., provided you follow the above mentioned tandem of rhodium | copper, I believe once heard, many will get my ongoing praise for said cord.

Next up..., Xangsane SCs and I need not search any longer I honestly feel.

Let there be light indeed.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on May 14, 2023 at 10:51:16
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I have been using the copper colour pure SOLID silver plug/iec for several years now, they always are my preferred choice so far having tried various combinations. Presently Iam using a Accuphase with CC pure silver plug /iec and Accuphase CC pure silver plug and Viborg silver over copper ( the only reason for the Viborg silver over copper is the fact I have not got around to purchasing the CC pure silver ) I also have CC beryllium copper plug but prefer the solid silver.
I also am using the YY audio cable with their rhodium plug and iec to my balanced power transformer with great effect.
Now I have not tried a set of monos audio rhodium on my Accuphase as I am so delighted with performance as mentioned above. I do intend in purchasing another Accuphase and the bulk wire Grey night 9008 where I can swap around with what is my reference as above. As you know it is easy to get carried away and loose reference if rushed or do too much at once.
With the incoming 9003 ag interconnect arriving I do need breathing space for a month or two to realy appreciate their performance.
Are you able to purchase the Xangsane SC in black instead of the green as they are a bit loud I should say.? I would imagine their pure silver SC would be very special indeed !

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on May 15, 2023 at 06:07:10
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Tangram,

Once again an excellent explanation on your chosen plating types, as I've several sets of copper plugs, yet am awaiting another rhodium plated copper ac male, as well as a silver plated Viborg ac male to use with the singles of both matching iec female plugs I've stored for said purposes.

It seems I'm still reluctant to use gold plated plugs with the exception being on the speaker cable end towards the speaker themselves | where I use rhodium plated ones on the amp side of things.

Yet with your testing, it does offer me other options to chew on, and I know things will come together nicely before it's all said and done.

Thanks for just being.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on May 18, 2023 at 09:10:26
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The 1 metre xangsane 9003ag just finished, complete with a soft outer sheathing. Now for a few hours of burn in, and then a week of digital playback !

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on May 18, 2023 at 10:38:23
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Wonderful job..., Viborg plugs at that.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on May 27, 2023 at 04:21:45
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So What's the final verdict What do you recommend for IC PC and SC

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on May 27, 2023 at 06:52:09
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coolkiko,

After years and years trying to just come across a very responsive | as neutrally balanced tandem of cables | cords, having excepted offers from friends abroad | through the Cable Company..., said tandem which has seriously caused me to end my own personal quest are as follows:

Xangsane SP-9003Ag ( Sterling Silver IC's ) | Grey Knight GK-6008Ag ( Silver Plated PC ) primarily used on either of my integrated amps of which are being rotated in and out of the system at any given time " period " | Accuphase 40th Anniversary Edition ( Pure Copper ) placed onto my Aurender Music Server ( where the power plug blades are a tandem of Monosaudio M109R Rhodium Plated Copper AC Male | Viborg VF513 Red Copper IEC Female, both of which are also being used on the above Grey Knight PC | Speaker Cables ( of which I've ended up with 7 pairs ) yet my 3 favorites to date are the Kudos Audio KS-1 ( Silver Plated Copper | 12' | $407, yet my second pair was basically free ) | Pearl Acoustics Sibelius ( Pure Copper | 3.8m | $507 shipped from Belgium ) | Clear Day Cables Shotgun ( Pure Silver | 15' | $350 ) each offers enough differences to focus my attention on the recordings themselves in a manner, of which I've found just brings about a sense of engagement I never noticed earlier on.

As for the other cables which I feel ideally are meant to be paired with the above, are the Xangsane XS-006 USB Cable ( Sterling Silver | 1.5M | $105 ) this once again after having owned cables like the Audience AU24 Pure Copper ( 1.5M | $945 ) | In-Akustik Referenze Pure Copper ( 1.5M | $550 from Germany ) * " this was the most actually detailed pure copper cable I've ever heard " | Neutral Cable Reference " i " Pure Silver ( 1.5m | $770 from Italy ) | Jena Labs Stream Dancer 2 Pure Copper ( 1.5m | 650 ) | Curious Cable Original Pure Silver ( 1.5m | 450 ) | Evolved Pure Silver ( 1.5m | $550 both from Australia )..., yet said Xangsane was recommended to me on behalf by an fellow member here " Dantheman ", which I immediately knew within placing it into my system 2 minutes later bettered said others ones ( costlier to boot ) to the point, I've chosen to life with it for whatever period of time I've left on the planet?.

And lastly, said other pairs of SCs are ones built from bulk wiring from brands like, In-Akustik " Germany " | Gotham Audio Cables " Switzerland " | Sommer Cable " Germany " | NEARdost Valhalla 2 " China " none of which have made it into the system yet.

As I now hear it | understand more importantly the vital meaning of synergy even more these days, let's just say once any given person, knows without a doubt their system is locked or dialed in, I often refer to it as " it's clicking ", it's time to sit back and know that to better what one often has right before them, in many many cases cost thousands to better, that's why as I try my best to listen to each component individually, only then studying its sound, and learning what type of signature is required by the other components which are meant to play correctly beside or behind said piece.

In a perfect world, if many given brands were so great sounding, other than one looking to upgrade further up the range, the tell tale sign for me at least, is when I see so many offered for sake on HiFi Shark, I mean whom in the right might enjoys buying what's meant to be the next best thing, only to see it listed as for sale within 2-5 weeks after having purchased it, or said piece?, logically either one doesn't understand synergy?, or loves buying blinding, without knowing how to match said piece with likeminded components?, which means either rethinking shit, and going laterally, or admitting to oneself they fucked up, and find themselves going full circle.

I'm Canadian born, and know we're viewed as a friendly natured culture, yet there are times where cussing just feels right, so forgive me that.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on May 27, 2023 at 07:35:36
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Least I forget..., the sole power cord of choice used on any of the DACs I've owned, remains a Jena Labs Crimson Red RX Silver Plated Copper | Braided from 5 stands of Japanese annealed said wiring harness ( $250 | 1.5m ) with a set of IeGO 8095 ( set | $295 ) pure silver - rhodium plated plugs.

Where it brings about a more realistic presentation as if a real flesh and blood vocalist is standing before me | not saying cords before it were bad, just this cord makes any given vocalist once again sound more " here, here " than " there, there " is you give my drift?.

Once again, in the end it's always finding a way to have one's reproduction of music rendered in a manner in which collectively the components sound | feel right.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on May 28, 2023 at 08:01:20
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thanks for the much needed info

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on May 28, 2023 at 08:54:25
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You're more than welcome.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on January 11, 2024 at 16:49:15
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Hello. What connectors did you use for the 9003 XLRs?

Thanks.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on January 11, 2024 at 16:55:40
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Hello. Are the 40th Anniversary XLRs you purchased and are evaluating the same as the ones in the picture in this thread?

Thanks.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on January 12, 2024 at 10:18:02
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Yes they are, at the moment I put them on continuous burnin with Xangsane 9002 and 9003 with Viborg rhodium xlr connectors, I also soldered in the Viborg xlr pure solid silver connectors with the 5 meter lengths, preamp to power amp, a couple of days ago...-...- these are sublime in naturalness/ timbre and lowering even further colourations. More to come with these too, I can say that my systems presentation has altered !

I have a cascade burn in program on continuous at the moment. My frybaby has literally fried, just wont work at all now.

 

RE: Pinging Tangram _ Jon L., posted on January 13, 2024 at 12:16:28
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Tangram - Thank you for responding.

 

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