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In Reply to: RE: Perplexed posted by cbrady on August 14, 2007 at 23:20:17
Long been the pastime here to knock all and sundry. The mags [guilty (and endlessly. But see no point anymore)]. Their reviewers (what ... they're not all virgins/saints/angels/genius'? You gotta be kidding me). Manufacturers (why they don't just give that sh*t away free to us poor audiofools, is a mystery to me). Websites, even musical artists (though it does look like Keith Jarrett needs a real honest to goodness timeout/vacation/or hug).
Yes even us Asylum inmates need take responsibility for our very own posts. Doesn't mean every post hits a nail's head. Or adds to the discourse. The DIY 'market', the used/vintage market, and the new/retail. Will all find their own levels. Making their own decisions. Following their own moods.
People buy whatever, for whatever reason. And unfortunately not every purchase is end result driven. In a new and different, and still growing information age. Those involved in the actual biz of audio will face new biz challenges. Myself welcome new and or different ..... especially if it also happens to make music. But that doesn't mean I'm going to get off my lard arse and look, listen, or buy.
I'm not a hundred percent sure where J.D. is coming from, and really I'm not knocking his post (shiver, cower, shiver) :-). Maybe make him the official Asylum designated reviewer for your product? Let him listen (and see) for himself.
Or not.
In the meantime, I also welcome your's and Harry's recent participation here. I see us all as one stripe [regardless of color (fwd/belt, rwd/idler, mid-eng.-awd/DD). Or which spectral end (consumer ... or producer). One vinyl nation, one music family, indivisible, with liberty to listen to any damn drive system, and records for all.
Follow Ups:
There are pastimes, and then there are concerted efforts to post a viable critique.
Generally, the 'pastime' thing takes about sixty seconds for what seems a witty idea and maybe a google image search--- before posting a reply.
My post took a few days of consideration and maybe 30 minutes to write up. It's a bit of original thought on two current 'rim' designs that should, if nothing else, be a part of the raison of Vinyl Asylum.
To condense it again, since nobody seems inclined to want to get it, goes like this :
With stunning examples of the science and art of rim drive from years back to contemplate (emt 927).... Two of our current designers appear to have chosen the low road and tacked-together some impromptu, feeble rimdrive efforts.
This looks, in an audio world very accustomed to shambolic trend-diving price foolery ... like another excercise in consumer baiting gimickry.
As an idler/rim enthusiast who has the even the vaguest notion of what might be possible today .... I think it's worth pointing out the Extreme Underwhelming quality of their 'efforts', both of which comprise nothing approaching the precision mechanisms of the past.
Don't think I can be too much clearer.
J.D.
"The new/retail (market) ... Will find (its) own level. Making (its) own decision. Following (its) own mood." [http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/vinyl/messages/67/679891.html]
Myself .... never presume to prejudge anything I haven't heard. No matter its design or construct (though I too may comment). More or less why we have moved further along the analog road (even if some have circled roun to the past).
And frankly, I care little for the raging motor/rim/contoller/drive/tire/scope-jpeg/graph/belt/dd battle (or non). Yes, certainly normal curiosity pointed my eyes. But my heart is doing just fine.
I've got music ... the rest? I'm too old to split infinity. The years I have left will be spent more in the acquisition, and listening of phonograph records. Not how they're played. Though certainly I've spent my fair share in contemplation.
Go slay that dragon!
"since nobody seems inclined to want to get it"
We get it, you don't like what you are seeing. Fair enough.
But please share with us what it is that you don't like.
Do you have concerns about performance?
Do you think the sound will be substandard?
Do you think that are reliability issues?
Do you think it is ugly?
...
Would you like it in a box?
Would you like it with a fox?
I was cured, alright.
Agreed. With only idlers in residence, Vinyl Forum could be renamed the Duchy of Grand Fenwick from The Mouse That Roared, or perhaps the Red Queen.
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