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Amazon sells it for $76, which seems VERY expensive for what it is. I use the LAST products & regimen with great results. I'm always looking for something that could do an even better job, though, especially on the initial run through. Spin Clean allegedly will "dig out" "dirt" left behind by other approaches. I'd buy it now if it were $30 or $40, but nearly $80 is hard to justify.
"'Cause when love is gone, there's always justice./And when justice is gone, there's always force./And when force is gone, there's always Mom. Hi Mom!" Laurie Anderson, "O Superman (For Massenet)"
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I bought my Spin Clean from Soundstage probably about a dozen years ago, although I've never used it as directed. I've only used it as a distilled water bath only, after the main cleaning cycle on my vacuum RCM. After the Spin Clean rinse the record gets another vacuum with the drying mesh and is dried completely. Works extremely well for that purpose. So I would say the SC, or a similar device, is still worth having around.
It's just a product designed for convenience rather than having any particular merit for cleaning.
It offers nothing above a mat, a cloth and a bit of elbow grease using a solution of your choice. The key is having the right solution and properly rinsing off the solution and I always do this step BEFORE an ultrasonic clean to get the best result.
I have used a KAB EV-1 for sucking off the rinse water for close to 20 years and that is a far more useful product if you want to focus on strictly necessary gadgets.
Regards Anthony
"Beauty is Truth, Truth Beauty.." Keats
I would feel much better about all the record cleaning systems if they would reveal exactly what is in their cleaning fluids.
Purchased the Spin Clean demoed in the related youtube video 2 years ago. For the 1st ~75 albums while following the directions to make 3 complete clockwise-counterclockwise turns through the solution, the aural results were astonishing. However, after that the rubber grommets on the two rollers wore down to the bare plastic, and spinning the records became a nuisance and headache (the LP's stopped rotating freely and would ride up out of the unit unless the rollers were held in slots by some means). I'd call the SC a low-priced temporary solution at best.
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Joe -
I have it now, thanks to a fellow Inmate, although I haven't used it yet. I'll have to keep the grommets in mind.
I have Vox Box that may benefit from a Spin Clean bath, or it may be a bad pressing. I have two copies of the '68 Carmina Burana on DG that may also benefit.
Looking forward to trying it.
"'Cause when love is gone, there's always justice./And when justice is gone, there's always force./And when force is gone, there's always Mom. Hi Mom!" Laurie Anderson, "O Superman (For Massenet)"
A SC is worth the cost, if that is all you can afford. Efficacy can be improved by vac cleaning after a SC bath. Scrubbing is key. I vigorously scrub back and forth over the entire record surface to dislodge the debris that can be removed using a SC.
I initially used it as a stand alone process. I noticed an improvement when I used an old nitty gritty machine to vac dry and remove all remaining liquid from the LP surface.
I noticed a significant improvement when I added an Ultra Sonic step. The SC removed a lot of debris- visible in the tank after a cleaning session. The US tank also contained debris *after* a SC clean then a US bath combination- representing dirt etc NOT removed by the SC alone.
My process is to SC each LP to essentially wet the grooves, and remove loose and easily dislodged dirt. Quick rinse, then a US bath for 15min, then a rinse, and finally a quick vac dry using my nitty gritty machine.
Results are wonderful.
SC and all other manual processes still left a low level wooossh-shhhhhh sound on clean LPs. I thought it was the noise floor of older vinyl formulations. The US bath removes this grunge sound, resulting in silent LP surfaces. I can now hear the noise floor of my system when playing a 60yr old LP.
My US tank is a Chinese sourced tank with heater and timer, along with the Vinyl Spinner rotisserie that can hold and spin 4 LPs at at time.
Total cost was about $400.
Most cost effective US setups are the various listings on Amazon, or the Hummin Bird Guru- all in one.
SC is good
SC + vac is better
SC + US + vac is best (to date).
If you already have a shop vac, you only need a few dollars in other stuff in order to make one.
It helps to have a broken turntable you can spin the records on, but it isn't essential.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
I used a vacuum pump and a nozzle, like the Keith Monks and Loricraft machines.
It works great. The record goes from fully wet to fully dry in one pass. There is no chance of the dirty cleaning fluid evaporating and redepositing the dirt back onto the record.
It does a much better job than the Nitty Gritty it replaced.
P.S. Sorry about the mess. This cleaner sits at the end of my work bench in my shop and my work bench is permanently messy.
Tre'
Have Fun and Enjoy the Music
"Still Working the Problem"
and it was a great table except the arm. I wish I still had. Why did I sell it...
I had three, I sold one. I fitted a Sumiko Premier MMT tonearm on mine back when the 598 was my main table.
I traded that arm away as part of the deal for the VPI HW-19 with a SME type IV tonearm that I use now.
I do have a Sumiko Premier FT-3 that I could put on the other 598. Right now it's on a SOTA Sapphire with a vacuum platter.
Tre'
Have Fun and Enjoy the Music
"Still Working the Problem"
Someone mentioned Disc Doctor. That is something you might also consider. When it comes to manual processes for cleaning records, there is no finer brush in my opinion for really scrubbing vinyl. The Disc Doctor's RCF is also very good, but you can use whichever you like. L'ART DU SON and AVIS #15 are my current favorites.
Heck, even if you have a record cleaning machine (suction, US, and/or string), having the Disc Doctor on hand is great for really deep cleaning.
We have put out a few videos on our YT channel 'Let's Clean a Record' that feature Disc Doctor in combination with other processes and other machines. One of the latest is below:
I bought the DD system for my own usage. I was so impressed I packaged a complete cleaning system based on it, imported it in bulk and sold the packaged system across Europe for many years.
Very cool! I have a great collection of some of the best record cleaning machines but when I want to get a record REALLY clean, I inevitably incorporate the Doctor's brushes.
When I first started using it, it did okay. Dirty records sounded a good deal less noisy after a Spin Clean. Not bad for a cheap machine, I thought.
One day, quite randomly - in the middle of Mark Baker (Origin Live founder) youytoob video discussing his arms and 'table set-up - Mr Baker threw-in how a Spin Clean's results can be improved enormously just by adding L'Art Du Son cleaning Fluid (found on Amazon listed as a shellac device).
I've been using this combo for about a year now. It makes anything I clean (which isn't actually worn/damaged) sound as clean as you would want a new LP to sound.
I struggle to imagine how a high-end cleaner can do a better job because I don't hear any clicks or pops - at least very rarely. It has revolutionised my LP collection. I am completely thrilled with what this combo can do.
Is the L'Art Du Son added to the Spin Clean fluid, or is it used instead?
"'Cause when love is gone, there's always justice./And when justice is gone, there's always force./And when force is gone, there's always Mom. Hi Mom!" Laurie Anderson, "O Superman (For Massenet)"
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I'll definitely look into it.
That L'arte Du Son isn't cheap, but Music Direct has it at the best price I've found.
"'Cause when love is gone, there's always justice./And when justice is gone, there's always force./And when force is gone, there's always Mom. Hi Mom!" Laurie Anderson, "O Superman (For Massenet)"
sisterray:
I have a spin clean unit in new condition (I have never used it) with some extras; Willing to sell for $40 + shipping.
Contact me and we can talk!
Dan
Honestly, $70-$80 is pretty inexpensive for a record cleaning device. But if you're truly looking for an uptick in record cleaning, I wouldn't settle for anything less than an entry level vacuum machine or one of the ultra sonic machines sold on Amazon. The caveat being they're going to be $200 and up. If that doesn't fit your budget, than you're back to the Spin Clean or the dozens of manual cleaning methods that can be found on YouTube. Watch your step here though.
I may check out the vacuum system (EV1?) from KAB.
I agree re being careful of what's on YouTube.
"'Cause when love is gone, there's always justice./And when justice is gone, there's always force./And when force is gone, there's always Mom. Hi Mom!" Laurie Anderson, "O Superman (For Massenet)"
If you're wanting an effective vacuum RCM for a reasonable price the KAB EV-1 is difficult to beat.
That sentence about "digging out dirt that others leave behind" sounds like hyperbole to me. It's simply advertising jargon. It might be a good system to clean records but I would doubt it beats other methods. I use both The Degritter Ultrasonic and a vacuum machine with disc doctor brushes. Even without an ultrasonic, they do an excellent job of scrubbing the record.
It is indeed marketing hyperbole. I'm simply looking for a method that'll remove any extra dirt or debris that could be causing extra noise. Spin Clean or another method would replace the LAST Power Cleaner step I currently use. I would continue to use the LAST Everyday Cleaner for cleaning prior to playing.
"'Cause when love is gone, there's always justice./And when justice is gone, there's always force./And when force is gone, there's always Mom. Hi Mom!" Laurie Anderson, "O Superman (For Massenet)"
I very much like the Spin Clean even if one has suction, ultrasonic, and/or string-type machines. They are great for presoaking a really dirty record. As a stand alone machine, they also work pretty darn good, particularly if you're willing to do a record cleaning fluid bath followed by a pure water bath.
That said, I agree the Spin Clean is expensive for what it is. You might try a similar product called the 'Studebaker', which retails for about $45. I have both products and they preform in a very similar manner.
A separate water bath following cleaning is a good idea. Thanks!
"'Cause when love is gone, there's always justice./And when justice is gone, there's always force./And when force is gone, there's always Mom. Hi Mom!" Laurie Anderson, "O Superman (For Massenet)"
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