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RE: Ground filter with a dedicated grounding rod

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rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com

In Reply to: RE: Ground filter with a dedicated grounding rod posted by Ric Schultz on August 16, 2022 at 15:39:31

I would never leave the charger connected when listening to music.

I am confused about his use of the ground post on the inverter.

If one has the whole system plugged into the inverter than all of the grounds (that are used) are going to the inverter and one would assume the inverter's ground post is the place they would converge.

I cannot bring myself to buy the PURITAN power strip. Maybe in time.

My amplifiers do not have a chassis ground since they do not possess metal chassis so I have no ground wire attached to the "heavy appliance outlet".

I have my power strip plugged into one of the receptacles along with, temporarily, one of the Rythmik woofers. I assume the ground connection there is tied to the inverter's ground post?

Thanks for the notice of where your friend has poisted more information about this.

I am enjoying music more but I worry it is the new as much as anything else. It will take a couple of weeks to know if there is something insidious going on - not that I suspect it.

Thanks, Ric

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RE: Ground filter with a dedicated grounding rod - Ric Schultz 11:29:29 08/17/22 (0)
Worry and Insidious? HMMMMMM. I trust the universe....it is beautiful....and so are you, my friend.
I finally got my whole system on my Goal Zero 400 inverter. The inverter is so small that it will turn off when I turn on my class D amp because it cannot handle the turn on surge of its 1200 watt power supply.......so I put a switch on the amp that allows me to switch between wall power and the inverter power. I turn the amp on with wall power....let it warm up....and when ready to play then swtich it to the inverter.....works perfectly.....the sound...........OMG......every instrument now in its own space....less zippy, more real sound...more depth. I do my listening tests using Chesky CD recorded in real space, using acoustic instruments, using two mics.....real easy to tell differences, that way. I realize that my Goal Zero inverter is way, way, way behind a Giandel.....but for now, this is all I can afford. I am going to go to my friends house in a week or so and listen to his super Apogee mit inverter system. I heard it when he first got the Apogees.....but he has completely transformed it since then.....and when I heard it.....it was spectacular. Fun ahead.

Edits: 08/17/22
RE: Ground filter with a dedicated grounding rod - Ric Schultz 11:17:47 08/17/22 (3)
As I described, the terminal strip has no ground connection. It is not clear whether the third pin on the AC outlets is grounded to that grounding post. He cannot get to his inverter very well, and he would have to turn it all off to check it with a continuity meter (he will test it...sometime)....Maybe you can be our "ground slueth". You can check for continuity between the ground post and the third pin on those sockets. They might all go to the chassis ground....in which case....then you could use the chassis post as your main ground post. He is doing something quite different. He is using the point on the Puritan Ground filter as his main ground point.....and this is where his wire comes from his grounding rod. He only uses one socket on the Inverter because he needs more than the 6 on the Puritan.....and maybe that is why he thought it might have sounded better without a ground wire on the Giandel.....if his component that he plugs into the Giandel regular socket already has a ground wire going to the main grounding point then plugging it into the Giandel might create a ground loop if "INDEED" the sockets are grounded. I hope this all makes sense.
I have put a pic of the insides of the Giandel 5000 watter on my site.....this thing is made really well......There are just two wires coming from the main board to the jack board.....so "true ground" is not used by the inverter. You can see the two black wires coming from the Jack board to the terminal strip.

Edits: 08/17/22
- I will check continuity tonight - rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com 08:16:35 08/18/22 (2)
  But I have to say - I get the feeling this thing is very quiet on its own.
  
  Still too early to make pronouncements but I am very pleased, so far.
  
  I have made arrangements to have a ground rod installed but now i am having second thoughts if that is actually needed?
  - RE: I will check continuity tonight - Story 08:40:28 08/18/22 (1)
    when I bought my house I helped the electrician put in 2 two new grounding rods, 6 foot long copper rods pounded into the ground and then wired in. I wouldn't want to do that again, we were both exhausted.
    
    I consulted here and other places and I was told it was the best thing to do and was also good for local codes.
    
    Don't mess with local codes by leaving any out, that's a heap of trouble
    - If I do it, I am wavering, - rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com 09:04:27 08/22/22 (0)
      It will be by an electrician that was recommended to me by Georgia Power for an earlier job.

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