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In Reply to: RE: Pierre's tweaks posted by hawkmoon on February 13, 2016 at 10:15:36
I'm not calling Pierre a crook. I believe the ad copy he writes for some of the products he sells is way over the top - as in I had better pull my pants up and wear rubber boots because the shits' getting pretty deep.
What I, and others here are saying is that the level of hyperbole Mapleshade uses in describing the physical properties of a product are at times laughable.
Look; in my experience rubber and cork works. I have used it for many years with great results. To believe that Mapleshade makes a special rubber and cork product that is superior to all other rubber and cork in the known world is preposterous.
The following is from a Maeshade ad copy describing Iso Blocks.
"Iso Blocks are a six layer rubber/cork laminate whose footprint and number of lamination has been tuned by ear to exactly those vertical, horizontal, and torsional resonant frequencies that provide the best sonic isolation for our air dried maple platforms"............and so on...........Well, I guess they would be six layers because when you glue a three layer block to another three layer block it does in fact add up to six layers.
Do you see where that comes off as a little disingenuous when describing a common HVAC accessory that has been around for decades?
Another example; If you took all the products that Mapleshade said would give another half to full octave of bass and added them all up you would have a system capable of -50 hertz frequency response! I mean, for the love of all things holy; How many octaves are there? That was a joke, as I am aware there is no such thing as -50 hertz.
I will give Mapleshade credit for making this tweak widely known - props to them. I will however, not be taken in by the techno blather tuned by ear crap though, especially the ears of a 79 year old man. If you believe all of the ad copy about "turn signal fluid" , that's on you.
To reiterate; I believe that many of Mapleshade's products are very good. I own many Mapleshade CD's and audio products. I have used, and will continue to use Maplshade Sil-Clear, as I believe it is a wonderful product that gives subtle but noticable results. But..... I also believe that other products are nothing more than ruse to generate more money for Mapleshade. Great - I assume Mapleshade is in business to make money.
All I did was link a supplier that sells a virtually identical product for far far less so that my fellow inmates could save some of their hard earned cash.
Meat; It's the right thing to do. Romans 14:2
Follow Ups:
I actually emailed Mapleshade and told them there is another company that sells "Isoblocs" for .34 cents their reply was "Anybody who can't tell the difference between their Isoblocs and the ones that Park Supply sells "Isn't too swift". Btw, I own both and they look the same to me.
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The "audiophile" unit is in the middle, however it is used & the Park Supply pieces are brand new.
I ordered 50 and putting them under 3 subs tonight at band practice. The subs fit under the stage.
Ah, darn! Here I've already ordered the generic Isoblocks.
I admit I'm none too swift. I run a mile in over 10 minutes.
axolotl
It would be fun to see if Pierre could pick out his iso blocks in a blind listening test.
Meat; It's the right thing to do. Romans 14:2
There is a certain amount of techno babble that accompanies the advertisement for any number of "commercial" products. It seems techno-babble only becomes offensive when you can find an economic alternative.
I had the opportunity to spend an afternoon at Mapleshade with Pierre. Although, a number of the products and techniques are suspect - until - you do an A/B test. Pierre demonstrated a number of things that I would view as tomfoolery, unless I had not heard it for myself. I am not in the tank for Pierre, but I have experienced face-to-face the benefit of some of his theories and tweaks.
All this to say: I am willing to bet that Pierre tried 1, 2, 3, etc. iso blocks before he settled on 3 sounding best. Just based on my experience Pierre probably did "hear" a difference. So tuned by ear is probably just ad copy.
Pierre was a most gracious host for an audiophile that just dropped in unannounced. For an afternoon's time he sold 3 or 4 CDs that day. I have purchased quite a number of Mapleshade CDs, since, and I am grateful for the opportunity to share thoughts with such an inquisitive mind.
I have tried and applied any number of tweaks we spoke of that afternoon, and there were a few I found impracticable, but may, quite possibly, be sound theoretical tweaks in someone else's system.
Mapleshade Studios is a tweaker's laboratory. There are any number of experiments being conducted at any given time. Some of these experiments have migrated into commercial products. Pierre is just getting a return for his thoughts, time, research and advertising.
The same outrage should be shouted when inmates of this website profess that the high cost of any number of products make for better sound. YMMV
DaveT
DaveT;
Good post.
I agree with your line of thought.
Meat; It's the right thing to do. Romans 14:2
All businesses are in "it" for the money.
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