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In Reply to: RE: Sylvania 6sn7 gtb posted by nbarzona on September 26, 2014 at 15:17:59
You can find different sounding tubes, but better?? Those Tung-Sols are quite good - it won't be easy or cheap to do better.
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Well, I guess I agree with the cheap part of your statement about doing better.
All I'm saying is this - I get a lot of feedback from customers who say the Tung-Sol is a terrific tube, and that it surprised them with its quality. Many say they think it sounds as good as the old stock they've heard.
And honestly - I find more and more of this occurring. I've come to learn that there is a group of people out there who will never accept/admit that new production tubes can be as good as the old stock. Fine, they have every right to think that. But for many people the new production tubes provide super performance and they find quite often that in many cases it's not easy to improve on them.
If you are suggesting that I am one of those that will never admit it, you would be wrong. I freely admit, and I believe there may be even a thread or two where you and I both agreed about the quality of current production nine-pin tubes. Unfortunately, I do not see the 6SN7 situation the same. All of the EH 6SN7 iterations, are great, but completely average sounding tubes. Even with that qualification, they still represent very good value mainly because of their price, but they don't even come close to the sound of the classics - as you point out, that is my opinion, and I'm sticking to it. I am glad to see that you clarified what you stated about them is your customers' reports on them and not your own personal recommendation.
I'm not talking about the EH, I'm talking about the Tung-Sol. Definitely not the same tube!
My personal recommendation is unless you are willing and able to spend a LOT on a 6SN7 family tube - get the current stuff!
Thanks for taking time to reply - this is a discussion that needs to take place more frequently IMHO. Without your participation it would be a monologue, not a discussion!! Much appreciated...
"unless you are willing and able to spend a LOT on a 6SN7 family tube - get the current stuff!"Long before the new 6SN7s were available, I began stockpiling NOS 12SN7s. I wanted to use NOS-quality tubes without spending a fortune and without worries regarding future availability. These were intended solely for use in my own designs, so filament voltage was unimportant. Ironically, the situation has now come full circle. New production 6SN7s are reputed to sound superb and prices are very reasonable. Meanwhile, sleeves of 12SN7s are almost non-existent, and prices have soared. So, for all the same reasons I had planned to design my equipment around 12SN7s, it now appears the 6SN7 will be the preferred tube. Ya just can't win...
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I don't have any of those. Very, very nice!
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Thanks Jim. That's actually good news!
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