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In Reply to: RE: the many and the few... posted by gusser on August 28, 2012 at 18:28:39
Elitist/sales types will find posting here absolutely useless, as most members are building THEIR OWN equipment.
You can't pervert or twist that around-- it's simply true.
So, WHY wouild someone like myself post here when it is obvious that there's nothing in it for me?
Am I stupid? Perhaps so! But I have done this BECAUSE I WAS ASKED TO by people who genuinely care about advancing the state of audio amplifiers.
THOSE people WANTED IT POSTED. So it would NOT BE LOST.
You see, these folks see beyond you and I. They are looking into a future when I am gone, and YOU ARE ALSO. What they want is the reason that these construction approaches are used.
They DO NOT WANT schematics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ANY IDIOT can get all of those he wants! They want to know WHY my amps outperform all else. And outlast all else. And DO NOT CHANGE AT ALL-- over thousands of hours use. And require NO adjustments-- ever..
I repeat They DO NOT WANT SCHEMATICS and they DO NOT WANT conventional science. They want to know WHY----------------THESE------------------
amplifiers do what THEY DO.
I have done the best humanly possible to convey this to THOSE KINDS of forum members-- NOT to the self-assured numbers-correct crowd.
This WAS NEVER meant to downgrade anyone or anyone's thinking-- or any one's preferences for what sounds he likes.
It was to explain WHY--------------THESE---------------------amplifiers do what they do-- nothing more.
---Dennis---
Follow Ups:
In the beginning, it is good to copy a proven design or schematic.As one becomes more advanced, he begins to ask why?
The builder then studies the "concepts" or overall design ideology of the greats like Fraker, Medwin and others.
Fraker gives us "concepts" and inspiration for our own circuits.
He does it out of the goodness of his heart, to help the next generations that will follow in his footsteps.
By doing so, the legacy of Dennis Fraker and his amplifiers is secured for all time.
Edits: 08/29/12
Sometimes, the way you suck up to Medwin and Faker makes me, well, want to puke.
I was listening to Uchida playing Mozart on my solid-state system tonight and then I was playing the same sonatas on my piano. I was thinking about the thought process that went into the composition of those pieces.
"All time" is a very long time, indeed. I wonder how long it will be before no sentient being in the universe knows the legacy of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart.
Thought experiment: Estimate the ratio of years until Medwin/Fraker are entirely forgotten to years until Mozart is completely forgotten.
You, Deathtube, are both a sycophant and a hyperbolic fool. LOL.
Thanks for giving me a chuckle.
Regards,
Henry
Dennis Fraker well deserves the admiration of his peers and many friends on this forum.
The way he is dealing with personal tragedy should be an example anyone of us on this forum could learn from.
If you choose to be a negative hateful person, that is on you.
Look, I'm sympathetic to Dennis, to the same extent that I'm sympathetic to any stranger who has suffered a major material, but non life-threatening loss.Lots of people endure terrible setbacks every day. We don't hear about most of them. Some setbacks can be repaired; many cannot. This is a reminder to all of us to be thankful for our blessings.
I wish Dennis the best of luck rebuilding following the fire.
I don't want to appear callous, but my sympathy for Dennis's plight doesn't change my opinion of his views on audio design.
For the record, my earlier posting predates the news of the fire at Dennis's place.
But, to be precise, my posting wasn't about Dennis. It was a comment on the silliness of the notion of Dennis's eternal legacy.
Eternity is a very, very long time. One day, no one will be left who remembers Mozart, Do you suppose on that day, people (or sentient non-people, as the case may be) will still be talking about Dennis Fraker? I don't think so... LOL.
I'm not a hateful person. I'm actually very compassionate. Lacking infinite compassion, though, I try to save it for people who are important to me.
Most people are polite, but hide their true feelings. I'm just brutally honest about what I think.
-Henry
Edits: 08/30/12
Dennis lost everything in the fire and you are still trying to debate about his tube design philosophy or legacy?
You and the other statists should realize that there will be a better time for that and it is not right now.
Let it be.
dt 667
You histrionics discredit no-one but yourself.
Ray Moth,
A person does not have to back up what they say by any means of physical prowess over the internet.
That is why I chose not to resort to childish name calling, I will leave that to others.
Considering the recent misfortune that had befallen Dennis Fraker, I hoped that the forum members might try to be more civil with each other.
Your interactions with me have indicated that was a false hope.
Have a pleasant evening,
dt 667
"You and the other statists" . . . "cyberbully" . . . "That is why I chose not to resort to childish name calling" . . .
Do I detect some inconsistency here? LMAO!
This forum is a theatre of comic proportions.I am just another role player creating drama and chaos.
Got to keep the waters moving a bit. It is much more fun that way.
Have a nice day,
dt 667
Edits: 09/05/12
Death, I was wondering if you'd tell me how old you are. It's relevant.
-Henry
Henry,You are just trying to provoke a reaction from me.
Sorry. It will not work.
You are not worth responding to at this point.
Have a pleasant evening,
dt 667
Edits: 09/01/12
No, Death. I want to know how old you are because I want to understand how much life experience you have. Silly boy, I imagine you to be quite young. But I could be wrong.
-Henry
Henry,
I am sorry that you lost your college friend and your job.
I would not wish those things on anyone.
Maybe you are upset, bitter or frustrated by these unfortunate events.
Is taking it out on me going to solve your problems?
I think not.
People should be happy.
If you are not a happy person, then take the steps to correct those problems.
Enjoy your weekend,
dt 667
Death, I am sad that my friend died. Sad, not bitter. I'm disappointed that the people running the new business I was so excited about turned out to be incompetent jerks. But I'm looking forward to moving on.
You get to a certain age, Death, and you start to realize things. I want to know your age because I want to know if you understand death -- and life.
Everyone knows from some point in childhood that they're going to die eventually. But it takes a number of decades to really come to terms with it and to feel it in your bones. You reach a certain age, and Death becomes a constant traveling companion. This is terrifying, but also liberating. It makes you conscious of how finite everything is, and how unimportant most things really are, up to and including our own lives. It frees you not to become obsessed with the material.
There are billions of people on this planet and every one of them is going to die. Death is the final closing of the door. But as long as you have your health and spirit, you are still very much alive and kicking and in the game.
Dennis did not "lose it all." He lost the most superficial part of his existence -- his possessions. While I commend Dennis's "composure," his reaction is what I would expect of any grown man who has been around long enough to know his place in the world and to see life in perspective.
Life is expendable. Very few people will leave a legacy that lasts a millenium, let alone "all time." Again, Mr. Drama Queen, though you've made this out to be much more than it really is, I was simply commenting on the absurdity of your claim that Dennis would leave an eternal legacy.
Nothing more, nothing less. Any added drama is solely of your own creation.
-Henry
Henry,
The real issues you have are not with me , but within your own life.
When you look in the mirror, you certainly realize that.
I won't trivialize your personal or professional losses because I don't know the extent of the things you are trying to cope with in life.
As far as my age, it is old enough to know better.
As for now, I am finished with this exchange since you continue to post insulting remarks towards me.
I made an effort to be civil in my communications, you did not.
Have a good day,
dt 667
Death, how old are you? I am forty-nine. Not that old, but not that young, either.
Life is a process, Death, with many ups and downs. As we mature, we learn to take the bad with the good. Satisfaction is the realization that experience and resilience will see you through the difficult times.
Are you old enough to have experienced significant loss? Loss accelerates as we age. It is a constant factor. Coping with loss helps us focus on what is important, and prepares us for the ultimate loss we all inevitably face.
Preoccupation with things that aren't important is a sure sign of immaturity. There are a lot of people on this forum who need to grow up and recognize the different between what is merely interesting and what is truly important.
I asked one simple question: Who is more likely to leave an eternal legacy: Mozart or Fraker?
Sorry you can find nothing interesting to ponder in that question.
LOL.
-Henry
> Dennis lost everything in the fire
While this really unhappy accident, I think he got an insurance for everything lost.
With prices of real estate falling, he may afford much better house now.
As Russian proverb says, bad things often lead to better outcome.
You are quite right, LinuxGuru. Dennis will rebuild.
I was in Silicon Valley last week renewing old friendships and sorely missing a few old friends who are no longer with us.
See the link below for the story of the disaster my good friend and former college roommate, Robert Howard, had to deal with.
Some things can be fixed.
"Death" tube, indeed.
-Henry
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Here's another link to Robert's story.
-Henry
I don't see that correcting someone on technical points, the thrust of most of the contentious posts, is being hateful.
The tragedy that befell Dennis and the graceful way that he is handling it, while completely admirable, has no bearing on these technical questions.
Tre'
Have Fun and Enjoy the Music
"Still Working the Problem"
I enjoy your posts Dennis. I'm glad you put up with the bully boys and carry right along.
Can't say your posts make complete sense or that I agree with all you say but there is enough sense in them in places for me.
If nothing else, a good amp is more than its schematic. That is where the "cooking" is. That's where the "flavour" is.
That's what I want. The moment anyone says to me "my amp is neutral", that indicates a sure sign they really don't know what they're talking about.
Those that don't get the above sentance will no doubt think that I want an amp to colour eveything and that I want all things to sound a certain way. Not true! And the people I know who do similar things are the ones I respect most. Bit of engineering, bit of flavour to taste.
My system largely uses recording studio gear; some of it classics of their kind. I like this equipment because it gives me the best window into recordings I know how to do. Best for me :)
cheers,
Stephen
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