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In Reply to: RE: You take a dead corpse ears over your own ?. posted by hahax@verizon.net on June 10, 2025 at 20:46:34
and his Press and his grip on what's offered to public as an accurate sound. Without Holt ATC would be making bird feeders like they should and people will be choosing thier own religion. I've met a few Gordon Holt alike, making recordings and preaching the same religion and they are about as entertaining to be around as reading modern art reviews. All those bores killing the soul of art and enjoyment.
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Do you know what you are talking about? Gordon can probably hear better today from his grave than you.
Other than you who knows what good hi fi reproduction is?
What about you? Gordon is dead like his choice of speakers. You are still alive.
I have my taste in speaker performance. It includes great detail, extremely tight bass and especially linear changes in loudness. Flat response is desirable but I'd sacrifice a little bit for the prior properties. I love imaging and space but the too are secondary for me. But usually a speaker that provides my primary desires does well, if not perfectly, on everything.
But I still don't know what you value.
It depends on the music since I have eclectic taste from disco to opera so I need a few speakers. I value tone and speakers which have that elusive "life like quality" They don't need to be accurate and have any other great properties. I also like the spatial effects (who doesn't) as long as they not interfere with tone and that's my main beef with high end. It castrates speakers from tone offering that artificial boring smoothness. They are also mostly thin and indiscriminate in midbass thanks to usually narrow enclosure and small size of transducers. I don't like "pinched" sound of dome tweeters and will take a wizzer cone over an accurate dome and in my opinion midrange driver should have at least 6" and preferably 10" to get midband right and realistic. Nothing is written in stone so I'm kind of partial to Spendor SP1/2E. It doesn't have a great tone but it does have that buttery seductive midrange with Operatic voices so I just forgive them to make everything else sounding like a "wedding band playing rock" Also Audio Note Snell boxes with alnico drivers are not so bad in small room which can support them.
I might be prejudiced against ATC since I did not hear their latest offerings but I not going to shows anymore and I don't see that they changed the course along with anybody else. They all will sacrifice everything else to get that holographic imaging that sells. Nothing else matters. Once I detect that homogenized, smoothed out of any life midrange
and they all have it I can't stand to listen any further.
ATC hasn't changed much over the years. They keep improving what they already have.
Your description of what gear you listen to sounds perfect for ONE person, you. And that's totally fine. It just isn't fidelity. It's as a friend of mine once said -color me perfect - although he meant it slightly differently. I support your argument for you. Just don't dump on other approaches, especially the unfinished (and probably unending) search for fidelity. Too bad we didn't start the conversation the way it seems to be ending.
But I have to add I am disturbed about dumping on Gordon Holt, a leader in the search for fidelity and also a good guy.
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