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In Reply to: RE: Do you honestly think KEF LS50 is... posted by Bill the K on February 10, 2024 at 04:15:40

I was not impressed hearing the $30k Blade in SFO a while back.

Seems to be an LS50 with woofers. Clear sounding, but apparent soundstage size puts you back in the orchestra's lobby.

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Not at all like the LS50. - Kal Rubinson 15:03:58 03/31/24 (2)
The Blades sound big and upfront (as appropriate to the source) in my experience in my room. I loved them and still do.
- https://www.stereophile.com/content/kef-blade-two-meta-louds (Open in New Window)
- I greatly preferred - E-Stat 05:39:49 04/01/24 (1)
  Quad 2912s heard at the same time. At half the price. To each his own.
  As I mentioned, I suspect the Muons would provide a MUCH more realistic image size.
  
  Edits: 04/01/24
  - RE: I greatly preferred - Kal Rubinson 11:42:10 04/01/24 (0)
    Dipoles do have a great advantage in this matter.
See Erin's Blade 2 review - Feanor 10:00:34 03/31/24 (6)
I'm not sure he agrees with you impression: see link

Dmitri Shostakovich
- Erin's Audio Corner: KEF Meta 2 (Open in New Window)
Edits: 03/31/24
- For anyone interested - E-Stat 11:26:27 03/31/24 (5)
  in looking at the graphs, click here for an operable link.
  
  Not much there. Zero mention of music.
  
  "This is the best speaker I've heard to date."
  
  Sorry to hear that. Maybe sometime he can hear the Muon which would seem to address the image size challenge.
  
  Everyone is entitled to their opinion. :)
  - Erin does give better listening impressions than Amir - Feanor 11:38:51 03/31/24 (4)
    Although Amir usually does brief impressions for speakers.
    Erin does suggest toeing the Blade 2's out 10-20 degr. to widen soundstage.
    Or maybe he didn't listen to the right music ... or maybe you didn't.
    
    Dmitri Shostakovich
    
    Edits: 03/31/24 03/31/24 03/31/24 03/31/24
    - If you find... - E-Stat 12:53:31 03/31/24 (3)
      Munchkin like soundstage size realistic, follow the Yellow Brick Road!
      
      View YouTube Video
      - Planars tend to case a bigger sound stage - Feanor 04:30:39 04/02/24 (2)
        
        In Reply to: RE: If you find... posted by E-Stat on March 31, 2024 at 12:53:31
        
        Was true of my Magneplanars vs. my current speakers. I don't miss the Maggies, though.
        
        Dmitri Shostakovich
        
        Than Munchkins, yes! - E-Stat 05:41:05 04/02/24 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Planars tend to case a bigger sound stage posted by Feanor on April 02, 2024 at 04:30:39
        
        I've yet to hear any system exaggerate the scale of a symphony orchestra.
        
        Have you?
        
        RE: Than Munchkins, yes! - Story 05:51:08 04/02/24 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Than Munchkins, yes! posted by E-Stat on April 02, 2024 at 05:41:05
orchestra's lobby - mhardy6647 06:44:36 02/10/24 (7)
... that sounds very British to me.

I don't associate British loudspeakers with an in your face presentation. Well, except for Bowers & Wilkins, and in their case it's more icepicks in your ears than anything more overtly facial .

;)

all the best,
mrh
- Methinks - E-Stat 10:19:54 02/10/24 (6)
  I don't associate British loudspeakers with an in your face presentation.
  
  you misunderstand where I find the lobby. Where bathrooms and beverages are found just outside the hall. Way back there. Tiny image. Very different from what I'm accustomed to.
  
  My season tickets are orchestra row N. Not in your face (which can sometimes be fun ^* ) but further back. More like one of my mentors who liked it a bit closer but different from another who preferred the loge perspective.
  
  ^* Once when I heard Carmina Burana at Woodruff Hall, seat selection was limited and I ended up in row C stage right. Up close and personal. If you're not familiar with that piece, it is quite dynamic. From that perch, raise the hair on your arm and startle the crap out of you dynamics. Not where I'd always like to hear a performance but that was exhilarating. :)
  - row K is OK for me (nt) - farfetched 15:15:47 02/26/24 (0)
    .
    / optimally proportioned triangles are our friends
  - tiny image is bad - mhardy6647 13:38:14 02/10/24 (4)
    and, yes, you're right -- I inferred Villchur-era AR distance, not tiny-ness.
    
    Yeah, the pursuit of right-sized music is what led me away from the Duplexes (which sounded great, and even big enough, but only in a pretty limited X-Y listening plane) to other similar-sounding solutions.
    
    Very familiar with Carmina Burana , BTW. It was all the rage when I was coming of age (mid 1970s). I've never seen it performed live, though.
    
    all the best,
    mrh
    - "I've never seen it performed live, though. " - E-Stat 13:40:26 02/10/24 (3)
      It can knock your socks off. ;)
      - RE: "I've never seen it performed live, though. " - M3 lover 12:03:11 02/11/24 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: "I've never seen it performed live, though. " posted by E-Stat on February 10, 2024 at 13:40:26
        
        I agree. Whether by full orchestra/chorus in a large hall or chamber orchestra with singers in a church it can get the blood/pulse going.
        
        My single contrary experience was an outdoor concert at a college, located within a mile of the Pacific Ocean. Shortly after the performance began a light fog rolled in and all instruments were affected, starting with the timpani and bass drum. Talk about a "flabby" performance!
        
        "The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing, if you can fake that you've got it made." Groucho
      - it ain't bad on the hifi - mhardy6647 14:11:01 02/10/24 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: "I've never seen it performed live, though. " posted by E-Stat on February 10, 2024 at 13:40:26
        
        It would be fun to sing.
        
        all the best,
        mrh
        
        RE: it ain't bad on the hifi - Pat D 07:19:26 02/24/24 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: it ain't bad on the hifi posted by mhardy6647 on February 10, 2024 at 14:11:01
        
        It's great fun to sing. I don't much like listening to it, though.
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        "A fool and his money are soon parted." --- Thomas Tusser

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