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In Reply to: RE: Looking to go "full range" posted by Socrates7 on March 05, 2011 at 12:06:29
The PTE's at RMAF left us with a lasting impression of true, effortless, full range sound and capable of unlimited levels without strain.
Now, back to your budget.
Have fun.
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To be fair they are active (something I approve of) so you get your power amps included in the price but the Phoenix seems a bit expensive for what it is ($360 worth of drivers in a pair) and the woofers are too far apart. For that money I would at least expect them to mill down the tweeter front plate to get the woofers closer.
On the other hand there are some really good alternatives for less money.
Not least the ATC SCM300A SL Pro. You get Class A power (ATC amps run in Class A up to 2/3 of rated output), two of the best 15" underhung woofers, the best mid-range for less than £22k ($37k) in a black box for soffit mounting (highly recommended) or £28k for a veneered box.
Probably the most accurate speaker around. Somebody measured them and they can produce 121dBSPL at an astonishing 0.3%THD.
Didn't get to hear the Phoenix, only the Statement and for us only the all MBL room at the LA show (06?) was as impressive.
I remember a ATC at RMAF with exposed framework in front of the woofers, but not memorable sound, wich means nothing of course.
Best,
I agree that shows are not best suited for evaluating speakers. Probably ok for a rough pre-selection.
I also agree that ATCs are not particularly memorable.
On the other hand almost all memorable speakers I have ever heard were memorable because there was something wrong with them. All the most transparent speakers I've heard were not immediately impressive, not until one has the chance to sit down undisturbed and then realizes how much detail is present and how much distortion is absent.
At the prices we are at right here I would expect at least a weeks auditioning at home which I find necessary. This would also allow me to perform two of my favourite speaker test:
A recording of a very familiar female voice (wife, gf, mother, daughter) at life-like levels and how do the speakers sound when turned up a fair bit and I am in ANOTHER room.
I don't know anymore about PTE than I learned at the show, but I feel you are dismissing them unfairly.
Have you heard them?
Having heard them I'm confident they would impress during your first test, and absolutely ace your second test.
I know how to listen to components, I know why people like Quads, and single driver's and why I don't.
Our local dealer carries Quads, EAR, SME, Airtight and Ayre and allows 'weekend' home demos.
I'm not dismissing them, I'm just saying that for the price they are not necessarily the first ones I'd consider. Also I like the ATC mid, applied properly there is no equal except may be the Volt VM752.
As it is I make do with my active 4ways based around classic Tannoy DualConcentrics and MC2Audio amps.
If you don't like the way they look that's fine, but writing you like one speaker you've heard better than one you haven't is illogical.
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