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In Reply to: RE: apples and oranges posted by mls-stl on May 19, 2009 at 17:02:35
"The issues that affect LP quality are different than those that challenge CD (or digital in general.)"
I can see I'm not making my point clearly. I understand there are differences between the formats and understand what many of them are. However I assumed your post was made either in support of or denial of theaudiohobby's original assertion, to which I was taking issue with in the post of mine that you responded to and this thread is a result of, that digital is better and it's an "indisputable fact". Based on the tone of your post and it's content I again assumed that your post was supporting theaudiohobby's assertion by supplying a mechanism for this corruption of the analog signal through the chain such that at the end it is indeed less resolving. As I replied: the only thing missing to make a believer out of me was the quantities so I could run the math for myself.
If this isn't the case then I apologise and I guess I still don't see your point.
"The nature of the LP production process makes variability between individual records a much bigger issue than for CD. With analog storage formats, it is all too common to have a great master recording and a lousy LP. "
I agree there is ample opportunity for failure in the analog recording chain, but am missing how this in itself implies a well done example can't favorably compare to or beat CD resolution.
"I'm in the category where I'm not an absolutist about the format of the recording as long as it is done well. I've heard fantastic LPs and a lot of atrocious ones. I can say exactly the same about CDs."
Same here. In fact I would add tape to the list as well. There are great examples of every format I've heard, unfortunately I'm not set up to definitively resolve the analog vs digital debate with the tools available to me and so am forced to jaw about it online and see what others have to say about it. That is my point of posting here in this thread...to learn the truth...and why it's true. I have asked myself this very question countless times and even seen it debated here but no one ever follows through with a complete explanation that fills in all of the gaps to my satisfaction or level of understanding. And so it continues...
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My posts were meant to provide info about the LP production process (which had been incorrectly and/or incompletely described in other posts.)
While I've digitized my entire collection (over 40,000 songs) about a third comes from LPs I converted, about 20% from open reel (which includes some copies of studio masters) and the balance from CD material.
When I've done the LP or open reel to digital conversion myself, I find the result indistinguishable from the original. I also use that opportunity to clean up some of the more egregious clicks and pops that plague many LPs.
Tonight I listened to a stunning JD Souther album converted from a 1979 LP and an equally enjoyable Mary Kadderly album ripped from a relatively recent CD as well as some Suzanne Vega from CD. I didn't find much on either that needed changing. Though recorded somewhat differently, all accomplished their goal of getting their musical message across.
I realize others may be more sensitive than I and thus have preferences and opinions as to what formats are more acceptable than others, but you'll have to take that discussion up with them.
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