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RE: Yep, Faulty Logic

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In Reply to: RE: Yep, Faulty Logic posted by Tony Lauck on April 27, 2008 at 08:57:51

Well, a poor test is a poor test, so it does not add much to the discussion to say that a poor dbt will produce unreliable results. That's equivalent to saying that a well driven Yugo will outsprint a poorly driven Ferari 550 Maranello, well yes it's obvious. At any rate, the dbts cited in this thread are professional conducted, and the conclusions are pretty much consistent with prevailing psychoacoustic theory.

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Yes, a poor test is a poor test. - Tony Lauck 10:05:17 04/27/08 (1)
"Well, a poor test is a poor test, so it does not add much to the discussion to say that a poor dbt will produce unreliable results."

We are agreed that poor tests are poor tests. Unfortunately, poor tests are often cited in this forum as proving things they don't, and more unfortunately sometimes poor tests are published in refereed journals. There are a few practical problems that have kept me from finding the "good" tests to see if perhaps they can be extended (or possibly refuted):

(1) Greedy journals make it expensive to read literature for those of us who live in rural America and so do not have easy access to technical libraries.

(2) Journals generally fail to fully describe models and experimental procedures and rarely disclose the underlying raw data.

(3) I lack a concise bibliography of the "good" tests and in light of the other difficulties I face find it excessively burdensome to perform an ab initio literature search.

I have a longstanding interest in audio epistemology and would persue this in more detail were I to be given a good starting point. However, in this day of desktop publishing and effectively free communication, I consider most journal publishers in the same category as the RIAA, namely parasites. I am reluctant to pay good money out of my pocket to read an article unless it is likely to be relevant. I have less reluctance to spend money on text books or monographs.

Any suggestions would be helpful.

Tony Lauck

"Perception, inference and authority are the valid sources of knowledge" - P.R. Sarkar
- RE: Yes, a poor test is a poor test. - andy_c 10:31:10 04/27/08 (0)
  "I have a longstanding interest in audio epistemology and would persue this in more detail were I to be given a good starting point. However, in this day of desktop publishing and effectively free communication, I consider most journal publishers in the same category as the RIAA, namely parasites. I am reluctant to pay good money out of my pocket to read an article unless it is likely to be relevant. I have less reluctance to spend money on text books or monographs.
  
  Any suggestions would be helpful."
  
  Hi Tony,
  
  If you're interested in AES articles, feel free to shoot me an email, and I can provide, err, "more information" ;-).

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