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In Reply to: RE: Recursive Cue Creator -HELP ! posted by Ryelands on October 08, 2011 at 03:32:13
If you have a bunch of files in a folder and they want to become separate cue sheets (example I have a download of all the Mozart quartets and these were broken up into separate queue sheets according to the content of the music) I can see no way to do this automatically, i.e. without some knowledge of the music. There is no separate tag field that defines the required grouping.
So as a result I created the queue sheets manually. They have information in them that can not be automatically created from the tagged music files. If I were to reorganize my directory structure and change the cue sheets (so they would have full paths instead of being relative to the directories) your advice of deleting all the existing cue sheets would be a disaster.
Am I missing some clever trick?
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
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Am I missing some clever trick?
Not that I know of. As you know, the automated creation of cuesheets relies either on file and folder naming structures or on tags within the files. The OP was asking about Al Jordan's CueSheetCreator and I answered in that light.
Obviously, in your case, automated cuesheet creation is inappropriate - as is my suggestion.
I can see no way to do this automatically, i.e. without some knowledge of the music.
Without some knowledge of the music, I don't see how you'd ever find anything, let alone create metadata.
My collection e.g. is organised by folder names and file names according to fairly strict naming rules. The upside is that it's easy to derive tags and cuesheets automatically from these names, the downside is that the rules have to be stuck to. I decided a long time back to keep tagging simple but accurate and, above all, consistent.
For things like string quartets (where there's usually more than one work on a CD), I tend to split them into separate folders. I can't see myself ever at a concert listening to more than one quartet without a break and I don't "try it at home". I suspect my way takes no longer than yours: the thought of hand-editing 6,000-odd cuefiles is daunting.
. . . your advice of deleting all the existing cue sheets would be a disaster
It probably would but it wasn't you who sought my advice and you are, in any case, most unlikely to need it. Also, the OP had said that he was already facing, if not a disaster, then at least a mess (though not of his own making) and had stressed that he was going to make a backup before proceeding.
So I don't see a looming disaster here.
Dave
I would have tagged the individual files differently if I had created them. But they came the way they did with the download. Perhaps I would have been better advised to split things into folders, but that creates problems too, as the downloads come with other information such as artwork that is common to all the music.
In general, if the original cue sheets were created manually, then it is probably not a good idea to delete them. If the original cue sheets were created automatically, then it certainly makes sense to delete them and start over. As to backups, doing these kinds of major reorganization is ripe for "cockpit error". So one had better allow for the possibility of destroying one's entire library. This is an OK risk to take, but only if one has at least two backups that reside on separate media.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
If the original cue sheets were created manually, then it is probably not a good idea to delete them.
No one's suggesting any different. The OP wrote, "The guy . . . has already ripped a thousand CDs and got all structure wrong from the get go . . . so I´ve run the Cue Creator a few times already".
There never was any scholarly, hand-crafted metadata to protect.
This is an OK risk to take, but only if one has at least two backups
Agreed. I'd already written, "you always need at least one full backup, preferably two, of your music data . . . ".
I am the person who told Ryelands about textcrawler. It is not easy to tell what you are asking but I think you would have to use a subfolder for each Mozart quartet to get cuecreator to make separate sheets for each quartet. And IIRC when there are subfolders like this, you would have to use the parent Mozart quartets folder as the cuecreator library rather than the full library of such parent folders. This changes nothing for using textcrawler.
It is not obvious to me why you would want to do this, however. I have found it is preferrable for myself to put all the Beethoven quartets played by a given group or a series of one composer's symphonies by one conductor, SO combo in one cuesheet and not use subfolders. I use the tags to clearly delineate the separate works in the complete listing that is shown in cPlay. The alternative I use sometimes for such special cases is to use subfolders but still one cuesheet made via foobar, editing it with replace to change the subfolder designation for each work/subfolder. I don't know exactly where cics ended up with the total files allowed in one cuesheet but it has always enough for doing this.
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