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RE: $550 buys a lot of snake oil these days! (nt)

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In Reply to: RE: $550 buys a lot of snake oil these days! (nt) posted by Scrith on February 19, 2008 at 10:04:35

People sometimes need to stop being know it all engineers and admit we really don't know everything and that sometimes something will make a difference (better/worse) and we really don't know why yet.
Throw your numbers around all you want... but if you haven't put your ear to it, you may just be blowing a lot of hot air. Sometimes a manufacturer cuts off his own feet when he tries to explain how he came up with what he did... he may have made something really special, but, because he's blown it on an explanation people don't listen. Sometimes the engineers are guessing at the explanations too.... doesn't mean it doesn't sound good/accurate.
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RE: $550 buys a lot of snake oil these days! (nt) - JimOfOakCreek 20:06:12 02/19/08 (5)
A USB cable is nothing more than a sheild (drain) and 4 insulated wires, 2 of which are a twisted pair and carry data. One end has a type "A" connector. The other end has a type "B" connector.

At $550 the manufacturer better explain why his cable is worth it. Does his cable reduce jitter? If so, by what percent? Why is his cable worth $550? What are the advantages?

How does the $550 USB cable interact with the USB port on a typical computer, which is massed produced and made as cheaply as possible? These are the questions that should be addressed by the manuacturer and by the "experts" that recommend the cable in this forum.
- RE: $550 buys a lot of snake oil these days! (nt) - Dawnrazor 11:49:47 02/20/08 (4)
  At $550 the manufacturer better explain why his cable is worth it. Does his cable reduce jitter? If so, by what percent?
  
  Jitter?? What's that? EVERYONE knows that the dacs reclock everything! :)
  
  You never disappoint Jim.
  - RE: $550 buys a lot of snake oil these days! (nt) - SeVeReD 22:47:33 02/21/08 (3)
    But if it gives a better, more accurate music presentation does it matter what the explanation is or if the manufacturer is completely off in why it does what it does?
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    - RE: $550 buys a lot of snake oil these days! (nt) - Dawnrazor 12:45:21 02/22/08 (2)
      No it doesn't matter Sev. Of course you are right here.
      
      I was just making fun of Jim's inconsistencies. He argues that USB cables CAN'T make a difference and that Jitter doesn't exist because of reclocking at the dac....but now is wanting to have the manufacturer explain how their cable produces less jitter.....
      - RE: $550 buys a lot of snake oil these days! (nt) - SeVeReD 16:46:42 02/22/08 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: $550 buys a lot of snake oil these days! (nt) posted by Dawnrazor on February 22, 2008 at 12:45:21
        
        doh
        I botched where I put my post above... was suppose to go under Jim's post.
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      - RE: $550 buys a lot of snake oil these days! (nt) - hotawg27 14:15:33 02/22/08 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: $550 buys a lot of snake oil these days! (nt) posted by Dawnrazor on February 22, 2008 at 12:45:21
        
        what a bunch of fools... more money than brains at work here
        
        send me $1000... I'll send something that'll fix everything

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