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In Reply to: RE: Have you translated this to Vista? posted by edward on September 18, 2007 at 23:41:49
Vista:
I received an email on this subject. I haven't tried Vista and my readings on it seems to put me off (sorry). See link below. It has a lot more bloat/overheads (poorer performance benchmarks in site suggest this). I found best results when 'execution path' is minimal. Vista doesn't seem to support '/timeres=9800' switch which is an important requirement. My thinking would be in Linux direction...
Most optimizations should work for Vista with positive results.
XXHighEnd may be an alternative to foobar. I don't think it supports upsampling using SRC (which would be a big disadvantage if so). With Foobar, it must be tuned as suggested (this gets you to the purity of XXHighEnd). Looking into it... I would suggest first upgrading from Foobar 0.8 to 0.9 with latest ASIO components, etc..
It would be interesting to compare Vista with XP. For now, XP with all optimizations is very good and natural. I'm no longer trying to fix that 'something missing feeling' anymore.
Command for svchost:
Yes I'm aware of this and left it so deliberately. Ideally, you should only have one svchost process running RPC. My concern with downgrading other svchosts is that they may be related to sound or graphics software installations specific to computer and such downgrading may have negative impacts.
Your approach using PID to downgrade other svchosts is correct. Another way is using pskill utility that does all svchosts in one call (note I haven't tested this).
Follow Ups:
Well, XXHighEnd does not use plug-in architecture so it does not support SRC, but indeed it does oversample (to 88.2) and upsample (to 96). The oversample option sounds very good on my DAC. It does not yet, however, support 24bit, but it's still in beta and hopefully that will change in the next month or two.
As for Vista. I was able to disable A LOT of services, so I don't really feel it's "bloated", but maybe I'm not really sure what you mean by this. Anyway, I can appreciate your hesitation and I respect that article with the benchmarks, but when it comes to music I wouldn't discount it until you've actually listened and compared. I know when you ventured on this "tweaks" path with XP, you verified everything you changed by listening to it. I hope you can do the same with Vista. And as for XXHighEnd, I believe it is the first player to use Vista's new "exclusive mode" which I believe replaces XP's "kernel streaming". Anyway, good things can happen with exclusive mode. The programmer says its better than ASIO.
I would be very interested in your findings.
In time I hope to test both Vista and Linux.
Yes, I tried foobar 0.9.4.4 (with ASIO) on the same Vista machine that I am running XXHighEnd and I prefer XXHighEnd.
Yes, I tried foobar 0.9.4.4 (with ASIO) on the same Vista machine that I am running XXHighEnd and I prefer XXHighEnd.
I tried 0.9.5beta3 with ASIO and prefer XX too, by a slight margin. Margin that will improve when I get a DAC with a driver that allows for exclusive mode.
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