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In Reply to: RE: Justice For Jazz Musicians posted by Utley1 on September 29, 2015 at 05:28:22
Well, no one is forcing any musician to play at a venue which is not as
socially responsible as he/she might wish. The cost of health care,
retirement, self-employment tax, etc., etc., should be built into a
musicians pay for playing the gig and the musician should be responsible
for providing for himself and paying his own taxes. Musicians are, after
all, almost always independent contractors, and so far as I know almost
all independent contractors in any line of work pay their own health
insurance, retirement costs, etc., etc.
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That is utter nonsense. If you were not so cruel .I would refute that in second on economic grounds. The question is do you want musicians to stay alive doing what their gift allows them or do you want them to join Uber or play on subway platforms..Sorry their skill are above the minimum wage. This is the only country that out sheer racism and opportunism that has for century permitted the abuse of these gifted people. Do not spout your economic ignorance here (I know no large corp in the US is profitable without government largess. That is the truth about free markets.)) but ask yourself if you are a racist and blame Charlie Parker for his gift.
You might try composing coherent, readable sentences. Then I could
answer you point by point.I've known MANY top shelf jazz musicians, famous and not so famous, who
have managed to support themselves quite comfortably. Yes, none of them
did it playing just concerts and clubs; they did a lot of commercial work -
TV, radio, advertising, studio bands, whatever. Nothing wrong with that,
certainly. And when there was no or not enough work playing music, they
fell back on some other line of work.There's a demand for only so many musicians, and to make your living at
playing your instrument, you have to be very good at it, you have to be
resourceful, and you have to promote yourself relentlessly, just like any
other skilled trade. Musicians are not entitled to special treatment
simply because they are musicians.As for the assertion that I am racist, you ought to be careful about
saying things like that when you don't know someone - and you do not
know me. Such assertions make you appear to be a unthinking fool.
Edits: 09/29/15
It is amazing how the calculated, reactionary conservative ideology(always racist as turns out ) intrudes into issue that involves generosity or fair play. The true Bush Reagan doctrine. Spend 10 trillion in Afghanistan and Iraq, split up the profits Haliburton, Boeing, Lockheed, Gm, GE, Morgan , and cut services and all entitlements. The conservative playbook. Alright so you would shit on all the poor and needy, regardless of race ethnic origin-you are not racist. Yes every one is their own contractor.
Good Lutheran principles. That is Gods plan That is your Christian message. The US is made of special interests many which are incapable of asserting themselves in the present political market place. As for you knowledge of the 'jazz' scene with you "I know, mentality, under the guise few reasonable assertions' , does not fit the facts of the Bureau Labor Statistics. You are just lying, disguising a few 'chatty' observations under the mantra of 'they deserve what they get" Or don't get. So I say you are 'full of shit.' The majority of the musicians covered in Jazz Justice are not in the categories that you have described and you well know that.
I think I'd add that it simply doesn't work that way in that field.
Dave
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