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That is the age group Selective Service called up/drafted when the system was in place before. If you have children as dependents you usually are exempt.
Would you accept such a system coming back?
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The problem with "the draft" is that it was a lottery. Couple that with a stupid military/foreign policy and getting into wars which are none of our business, and it's just plain dumb.A better approach would be to have mandatory military service. But that would also require our government to grow a brain and not get into conflicts that we shouldn't get into. Otherwise, that approach won't work.
There is a "role model" for the concept: Switzerland. Every able-bodied male is required to do two(?) years of military service. And, the country doesn't get involved with others' "issues". In my view, the Swiss are the grown-ups on the planet. AA Inmate Morricab can tell you all about it - he lives there.
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It was not a lottery when I was drafted. Each region had a quota to fill. I heard areas like LA needed to take any male able to move.
The lottery system came in a few years later. It was done by drawing dates of the year. Only a certain number of dated were pulled out of the hat. My youngest brother's birthday was the first one drawn that year.
I totally agree about our continued involvement in conflicts. I doubt all the problems with terrorism and conflicts would have been far less if we didn't continually defend Israel.
"It was not a lottery when I was drafted. "
So, you didn't have "a number"?
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Damn, that was so long ago I am not sure if they gave me a ID card with a assigned number when I registered at age 18 or if they used my SS number.
My number was 271 in the draft lottery for "cannon fodder".
Fortunately, I was also in college.
So, I'm still alive.
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Girly boys and females with vaginas will get a pass?
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During my era, VN, I never met anyone older than 24 who had been called up, and one who enlisted at 29. It may be written with a higher limit, so there will be a way to get people to clear nuclear rubble and bury mass casualties.
The Voluntary Military came about for one reason: to stop the riots.
I think we are past the sex, drugs, rap'n'roll stage, and the draft might be accepted for real emergencies (which VN was not). The draft would save us billions except for retaining the level of technical proficiency needed to use weaponary.
About using regular military to subdue civil disobedience: My last year was at Redstone Arsenal for the year of 1971. My fourth month there we spent an entire Saturday on "riot training". I guess it was in case the hippy dippys at Alabama and Auburn got out of hand. We had no inkling of an idea that our actions could possibly be illegal.
I agree about the age of the people I saw at the center when I got drafted. I was in college and at the end of my sophomore year when they started the deferment program. So I only had two years of deferment to get the degree. I finished on time and notified the draft I was ready to go. I moved back in with my parents and waited. Around 4 months later I got on the bus with a full load of kids my age and when to Portland. That was late 1966.
Kent State and all the graphic coverage of the war where two of the major contributors to the rioting and change in public opinion.
A universal societal experience. Just like what taxes should be - everybody should pay something even if it's symbolic near the bottom. Training / continuation of expertise is typically thrown up as a reason to have strictly volunteer . . . And yet lots of countries manage a mandatory military service wo major issue. S Korea and Israel come immediately to mind.
might lead to more polarized services, i.e., ethnicity, political beliefs, etc., which are not the mainstream swath of American society.
Today's recruitment standards are very high compared to previous eras. I'll bet half of combat arms are given academic waivers. Seems there's more to pulling a trigger than just squeezing it these days.
I'll never be sure Why he felt the need to do that. His face lit up as he was saying it, almost as if time was standing still (for him).He drank a lot of vodka. His wife, who monitored his hidden stash, confided to me that the usual amount was about a quart a day (on average) and that this amount of alcohol was affecting the lining of his lower rectum region, resulting in "fissures" that bled like hemorrhoids...
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But SCOTUS wouldn't rule that way.
"Horse sense is the thing a horse has which keeps it from betting on people. "
― W.C. Fields
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Yes.
Reinstate the draft. I think we'd be far better served as a society if our military was a truer cross section of our society. What we have today is anything but a cross-section.
MANY might just view a new draft as part of MAGA.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
I assume you are referring to wealthy people getting another kid to sub for their kid to do the military service?
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"Horse sense is the thing a horse has which keeps it from betting on people. "
― W.C. Fields
Getting rid of the draft meant only the patriotic would serve and so, greatly reduces the number of folks who would protest going to war. Vietnam was the lesson.
Patriotic? Or too poor or poorly educated to have many other prospects?
I don't doubt some do it out of a sense of service to their country, but none of the young men I know personally who've joined did it for that reason. Their decisions were far more economically driven.
Try taking entrance tests for even the Army. I would guess half the people in combat arms are on academic waivers.
With the new administration, core values are back, and recruitment has been reported to be on the rise. Fingers crossed.
During the last draft, most branches of the military were interested in drafting and retaining "grunts" to do the basic or semi-skilled jobs required in military service.
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