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In Reply to: RE: Swiss on the cheap... posted by Jim Pearce on September 18, 2023 at 08:16:37
In traditional style watches I prefer thin titanium cases with titanium band along with a simple face and sapphire crystal and quartz crystal (electronic) time base. These are very light and the sapphire crystal seems less prone to scratching vs mineral glass or hardex thermoplastic.
Next step up for me would be my favorite line of watches from Citizen. The EcoDrive radio controlled watches require no batteries and are always accurate as they are sync'd to a time signal transmitted over the air out of Fort Collins Colorado (which is sync'd to an atomic clock in Boulder Colorado).
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The one below: it was crap. I've always been very averse to watches (among other items) whose value is largely driven by snobbery. But I got tired of my Timex digital Expeditions and set out in search of an inexpensive alternative.
Never had a problem with my Citizen EcoDrive watches, the two Radio Controlled versions are shown below. My wife owns a couple Citizen watches too. They're not exactly high-end watches. My most problematic watches have always been Tissot. I like their styling but I stopped buying them.The only possibly snob appeal watch I have is the Tag Heuer that was given to me by my company in 1995. It's probably one of their entry models. It crapped out 15 years ago but I had the internals completely replaced a couple years ago.
The last time we went on a Caribbean cruise trip I bought a cheapie $10 "waterproof" Timex for me and a similar one for my wife. No sense in bringing a good watch and scuffing it up on shore excursions and water activities. My Timex lasted about a year before it went in the trash bin.
Notice the top row watches all show precisely the EXACT same time . These are either
radio controlled and sync'd to WWV/WWVH radio transmissions or get accurate time over Wifi.
None of these are what I would consider snob appeal watches.Interesting fact: I can barely read the huge red character digital clock in the bedroom at night. My Apple Watch on my writs is legible in the dark w/o my glasses and it also tracks the quality of my sleep along with resting heart rate. The gentle silent alarm that vibrates my wrist will wake me w/o waking my wife.
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It strikes me that it is very typical of the watch market that not all watches agree on the time and most need to be manually set - after all the technology is hardly new. I'm really something of an anti-enthusiast - although I admire the historical achievements of purely mechanical clockworks.
To have even a chance at 'seconds accuracy' you need a watch with the 'hacking' function.
I wait until the second hand is 1 second after the minute. Pull out stem and watch STOPS.
Adjust minutes to suit than, using my CellPhone, push the stem back IN when it clicks the minute.
Good for 6 months or longer......
Those WWV adjustible are a neat addition. My aspirational watch has a built-in perpetual calendar which NEVER needs adjustment....
Too much is never enough
The one I bought and the new one they sent me. The new one keeps better time, but it is losing some seconds. I almost prefer the first one. A 25 second gain just means I need to set it at 7 A.M. and setting it to my cell phone takes about a 25 second pause. With the hacking the setting is exact out of the gate. And then I know it gains 1 second per hour, so I really know the exact time at a glance.
Can you 'self regulate'?
PLace watch on stem.....or flat on back or whatever.....
Some instructions I've seen IF timepiece is a little fast or slow consistently....
Too much is never enough
Either crown up or crown down. I've only had the new watch for 36 hours, but it does look like face up may speed it up a little. But as I intimated I find a watch that loses even a little time very problematic. I need to redouble my efforts to find a watchmaker to regulate one or both.
I would leave 'in the position' for at least 18-> 24 hours......
than wear 'normally' for a few hours before checking.....
Keep good records so a non-obvious pattern may emerge.
Too much is never enough
They have it in to take a look. I'm still persisting with face up with the brand new -11 watch.
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