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Well, simply put they sound Alive Alive Alive. Extremely transparent and revealing...I have never heard a speaker show the stages of an amp warming up so clearly. My JJ takes about 30 minutes to come on song...or so I thought but in reality I kept hearing improvements for at least an hour after it was turned on. Once it is REALLY warmed up the sound was dynamic as hell with good bass extension (it sounded really tight and somewhat congested for the first 20 minutes or so) and very dimensional and well defined images. Soundstage is layered but not super deep because I have to put them close to the back wall but with good classical recordings there was sufficient depth to be believeable.
The attack of sharp percussion and blats on horns sounds...real and like you are close...like where the mic was positioned...or far away if that was were the instrument was relative to the microphone, but with that realistic snap one gets from live, unamplified concerts.
My old love affair with planar speakers got me some of this realism but the horns now take much of what they did and intensify it. I had problems with horns in the past with coloration and resonances affecting transparency and realism. I loved Klipsch La Scalas for a few years but in the end had to leave them as they were simply too flawed overall desite the high sensitivity and wide dynamics. The Odeons seem to overcome these flaws and while not quite as sensitive have even better snap because they are much better integrated as a whole speaker.
The best speakers from Living Voice and Lansche (the Cubus) are still somewhat better I think...and they should be for the mega bucks they cost, but I would take my Odeons over any Avantgarde I have heard or all but the biggest Acapellas and definitely over any Klipsch or Tannoy I have heard.
That said I haven't heard the older Altec VOT but I have heard the JBL Everest DD66000 and DD67000 as well as the K29800 and I prefer my Odeons as they are less colored sounding to my ears.
A friend of mine just picked up a pair of Living Voice Air Scouts, which are 105db and use the famous Vitavox S2 midrange driver in a full horn setup. I will report on those when I hear them but I am expecting really good things from them. Will they best my Odeons? Possibly.
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Morricab:
I came across this ad for Odeon La Traviata speakers.
They are in close proximity, and more importantly, within budget.
Does this seem like a reasonable price?
Meat; It's the right thing to do. Romans 14:2
I would say go for them. They are the smaller brother to my "La Bohemes" and they are fully horn loaded 2-ways. The price is not bad for such a good sounding speaker.
This version has a back horn loaded 8 inch woofer with a 1 inch horn loaded tweeter. Mine have a 10 inch backloaded woofer and a 1 inch horn loaded tweeter. Mine get about 2db/watt more than these but otherwise the design is the same just scaled down a bit.
They of course like SET amps but a good PP triode amp would also work very well.
I was actually contemplating them as a second pair for my downstairs but shipping from US to Switzerland makes the whole thing a lot less attractive.
Like always though, I recommend you try before you buy and since it sounds like you would go pick them up then you will get to hear them.
I've always wanted to love horns but have never managed to find a pair to fall in love with.
Your description of the Odeons has me thinking about trying them again.
He is a very short history of the systems I've demoed with horns:
Goto: -found them closed-in sounding.
Avantgarde Trios - too much annoying colouration but great dynamics and great on some male voices.
Acapella Violon and Triolon - nothing special other than the great tweeter.
Shindo Latour - soft, warm, romantic (but that may have been the electronics)
JBL Everest - my favourite by far. Incredible dynamics and speed. Very impressive in many respects. They certainly had that "breath of life" but the sound was very 'dry' and it left me cold emotionally.
Can you speak to the musicality of the Odeons: by this I mean the flow of the music, their ability to impart emotion and the intention of the musicians.
And does anyone have a link to more info. The manufacturers site seems to be under construction and I can't find a distributor's site.
Owned the smaller Rigoletto's for about 5 years and recently sold them. Still kicking myself for that. Wonderful speakers. Would be nice if another distributor would take up the line again here in the US.
Pic ...? OK, found it ........ So full Horn, interesting with the little tooby's.Nice looking setup .......
Edits: 02/25/15
Brad, congrats on finding a speaker that apparently suits your listening and musical tastes quite nicely! It is difficult to really find a speaker you can truly love, but when you do --BAM it's like falling in love with the most beautiful woman you've ever seen. They just keep drawing you back and you find you've spent hours and hours sitting with them and listening to the beautiful music they make when you meant to only sit for 1 or 2!
Like you I started with planar & ribbon hybrids until I discovered horns! I'm still using double-back-loaded horns with Rispoli modified Dayton PS220-8 drivers and Fostex T900a super-tweeters crossed in at 10Khz. But I'm saving for either used Odeon's ---{ had a chance at a used pair of No.28, but didn't have enough cash }--- so I'll keep using my incredible Sachikos until another deal comes along and I have the cash to take advantage of it!
Again congrats on obtaining and outstanding speaker. I'm actually a tad jealous...
I'm listening to Clear Approach by Trillion
Thetubeguy1954 (Tom Scata)
Full-range/Wide-range Drivers --- Front & Back-Loaded Horns
Central Florida Audio Society -- SETriodes Group -- Space Coast Audio Society
Got them setup properly over the weekend and man do they sound good! Wonderful extension without being too sharp, full powerfull bass and a midrange to die for! It is electrostat like clarity but with a whole lot more punch. They are one of the lowest coloration horns I have heard as well. Should be a keeper.
Michael Fremer reviewed a pair back in 2003...
This is a more telling comment about Odeons:
"That's why, when I saw and heard Odeon's Tosca speaker at the Frankfurt HiFi show a few years ago, I asked Axiss Distribution, the US importer of the German product, if I might review it. The Tosca's mid/HF horn was integrated with a conventional-looking baffle also containing a reflex-loaded cone woofer. For all intents and purposes, it looked like a normal loudspeaker, but what it was doing with a CD of Sonny Rollins' Way Out West was anything but. The sound made me horny (footnote 1)."
Michael was impressed with the Toscas, which are the true smaller brother to the La Boheme, however, he is wrong about the bass loading of the Tosca...it is in fact back horn loaded with an 8 inch woofer and not reflex loaded.
I have never heard the La Traviata but two things are quite different.
1) The bass of the La Traviata is an 8 inch woofer that is not horn loaded but is in a special design of vented box. My La Bohemes have a 10 inch woofer firing into a back loaded folded horn. This results in a VERY different bass quality. The La Bohemes sound quite full but very fast and percussive.
2) The tweeter horn is smaller in diameter than on my La Boheme...not sure about the cutoff frequency used.
3) Mine don't have a supertweeter...they are a 2-way.
4) My in-room balance is not at all tilted up like the measurements JA made. It is far better balanced.
5) My La Bohemes have an adjustable tweeter level (3 positions) I don't think the La Traviata's tweeter level is adjustable.
If you look at the off axis-response curves I would guess the in-room balance of the La Traviata, while still tipped up, is not as bad as it looks up close. There is a lot of directivity with the horn.
So, while I cannot comment on the sound I can sound of the La Traviata, I can tell you that it's design is somewhat different and the outcome not really the same, although I am sue there is a sonic resemblance.
did you heard the BD design horn speakers swing?
did you compared it to Odeon?
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