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a fair number of us have this condition but don't understand it. I am fortunate that mine is only intermittent and not constant.
first, a grammar nazi moment- it is pronounced : tin-it-US not tin-eye-tis. yes, people will know what you mean and may themselves not know the proper pronunciation. there, that's out of the way and i feel better in a miniscule way.
i just happened on a TED talk that explains what it is and that there is no cure at this time, something that i wondered about. of course there are some victims (and i am sure some feel that way) that feel they MUST try SOMETHING, and thay should. perhaps there are things that might work, even if only for a while or a distraction that is effective.
so, here is a talk that is easy to comprehend that is practically and medically explained in an understandable way.
see link below:
...regards...tr
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Caffeine drives mine. No caffeine, no tinnitus. Also if you have an elevated blood pressure.
so...how does it work for you? is it short term? Like, drink coffee then in a while or for a while, you hear it? Or is it 'give up caffeine altogether' to get rid of it? I haven't tried giving up caffeine (nor breathing, etc.) I suppose I'm willing to try, or cut back on caffeine at least.
i haven't correlated that nor the BP either. but that is me vs you differences.
...regards...tr
I'll watch the video later because I have something to do. Within eighteen minutes that is.
I wanted to mention that there was a thread either here or on AK about it and someone mentioned a temporary cure that involved something like putting the thumbs on the back of the head and fingers, I don't remember. I tried it said it seems to work but the effect is very temporary.
But that makes me wonder if there might be a device devised that would fit around your head and stop it permanently, as long as you are wearing it. Would it be worth it ? Just some clamp on your head that gives you relief instead of hearing aids that cost thousands of dollars ? And think about that, it really works, it does not just override the tinitus.
It was very interesting and I cannot seem to find it anymore. I have seen many things disappear from the internet, if I gave you a list it would be quite lengthy. If I could find it anymore, it would cost professionals alot of money. Give that some thought.
They give people back braces and all kinds of other things, why not this ? I know the reason.
Things sometimes disappear....because they don't WORK.
...regards...tr
I have a friend who's been to three of the best ENT docs and no help. His is far worse than mine.
Again, I can't stress enough: ignoring Tinnitus is the cure, unless it's severe, of course.
I was so upset at first when trying to listen to music, yet I realized I'd never been bothered by the outside wind, distant Air Conditioner noise, etc.
Comment sections on Tinnitus websites are carnival-like horror houses. I don't visit them.
Mine is sporadic, short lasting, and usually associated with temporary spikes in blood pressure.
Fortunately it is low level and I am generally able to ignore it. In fact it is perhaps a bit worse than it was a couple of decades ago but I am better able to ignore it.
I suspect it was caused by unwisely shooting without ear protection back when I was about 20 y/o.
I love the music of Dmitri Shostakovich ...
i had forgotten to mention that i also suspected salicylate induced tinnitus because of the arthritis meds i take, two of which are fairly large amounts of salicylate, of which aspirin is one.
because of the arthritis meds daily, i reduced the 80mg aspirin prescribed by my cardiologist from one a day to one monday and one friday. i did so with the approval of the MD so i am not self prescribing. i voiced my concern to him and that's what he suggested.
...regards...tr
I consume any amount of Table Salt...
I had a day in 1998 when I was doing Kundalini Yoga and was experiencing the Kundalini Awakening when my Tinnitus stopped for a full day... Now that was pure joy!
Just joking. As Julia Child said, salt is salt.
I find myself avoiding loud people at work and sitting in an audience where people may clap their hands is absolutely not going to happen anymore.
I'm at four months now, and I'm just at the point where I don't notice it anymore, even when actively listening to music. Mine seems to be tied in with drops in barometric pressure, but I stopped checking.
That's the cure: accepting it, forgetting about it. Not obsessing over it; obsessing causes the brain to zero in on the sound and amplify it, as if footsteps of a predator in a forest.
Your post is the first time I've though about Patty the Piccolo playing in weeks. Ab, three octaves above the staff, if you're curious. : )
Well, i haven't heard scales, just a steady ~ 2k tone at varying levels, now at maybe 40 to 50db.
And yes, i just accept it. It is only mildly distracting from music. If i need to get a fix on it in a noisy room, i will put my hands over my ears to check rhe level.
...regards...tr
TIN-i-tus, Ti-NIT-us, Tin-nit-US?!
WTH?!!!
Doesn't anyone here actually talk with an ENT Doc who knows how to pronounce it?!!
:)
\ˈti-nə-təs, tə-ˈnī-təs\
Phonetically both are acceptable, it seems . Apostrophe-looking mark indicates accepted syllable emphasis.
Big J
"... only a very few individuals understand as yet that personal salvation is a contradiction in terms."
I have a bad case of this, as well as congenital hearing disease, and high frequency loss.
I don't hear any of this when I listen to music.
I have it, for a long time (more than 10 years) most of the time its just a background tone. Sometimes its loud. about a year ago I went and got very good hearing aids. They are adjustable. For my Audio, I'm very good 40 to about 8000, above that I need ++++ DB and that's where the aids are set up for.
The aids I have also have a setting for Tinnitus, I can either have a wave sound or I think pink noise).
I mostly use them at work and when I come home they come out. When I do low level critical audio listening, I set them for Audio and enjoy. When cranking, no need for them.
These were about 5K+ a pair
Do we really need to invoke the Nazis every time we intend to say "pedantic?"
From the Mayo Clinic: Tinnitus (TIN-ih-tus) is the perception of noise or ringing in the ears.
According to this source in the good ole U.S. of A. there is more than one acceptable pronunciation. As such, neither is the correct one.
Is the pronunciation that reflect the spelling and doesn't suggest ITIS which is inflammation which tinnitus isn t.
...regards...tr
Your first example is the more British pronunciation; your second is more the American pronunciation.
Good TED talk. Yes, it appears to be a CNS phenomenon, in the same way that pain is a CNS phenomenon.
TIN-it-tus, emphasis on the "tin".
"Suddenly, I'm not half the man I used to be. 'Cause now I'm an amputee" J. Lennon
I didn't want to correct the guy correcting "us" heathens but, of course, what he was trying to communicate (but didn't) was what you have stated (correctly) here.
tin-eye-tis with a right nice, long slow 'eye'.
It reminds me of landing in London and not being able to understand the cabbie at first and he was a full blooded Brit.
-Rod
Only "ah", so it would be tin-ah-tus, y'all.
Your British cabbie story reminded me that I was talking to someone the other day about watching the film Nowhere Boy, which depicts John Lennon's youth. The Scouse accents are so heavy I have trouble understanding parts of it, and said my DVD should have come with subtitles.
"Suddenly, I'm not half the man I used to be. 'Cause now I'm an amputee" J. Lennon
And I have a friend from Madrid who visited me in Puerto Rico and was constantly challenged by locals who wanted to know where he learned "his Spanish."
Sometimes there are just a few 100 yds away. Sometimes there are thousands breeding. I know what that sounds like because I lived on the Wicomico River many years ago. I was near a marsh. There was a big lot next to my house, where every spring, there was the constant roar of mosquitoes day and night, for about 2 weeks. In the morning when I came out to go to work my car was covered with little baby mosquitoes. At its worst, my tinnitus is nowhere near as loud as the roar of those mosquitoes during that 2 weeks of breeding.
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You paid HOW MUCH for that electrical receptacle?!!! Are YOU nuts?
Insects - Oingo Boingo
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is about what i spent on a hospital grade receptacle. OH! that was your SAST question, not your first.
my tinnitus is the constant tone type but intermittent. i liken it to be about 70db. i wish i could switch it off but not so. i attribute it to loud music such as i heard at The Baked Potato in LA (in addition to other places such as Smokin' Joohnnie's, and Cozy's-both now gone) where i had the pleasure to hear Ministry (no, not that one) with Abraham Laboriel and Abraham Laboriel. great but too loud for that room as is most of the other groups i have seen there.
if you hear your ears ringing after loud music (or other loud noise such as in industry such as Bethlehem Steel where i worked or drag racing), you have hearing damage. that's the signal to limit this kind of expsoure, either by avoidance or hearing protection.
...regards...tr
A few years ago my wife (of now 44 yrs.) suggested I get a hearing evaluation, to which I complied. I digress slightly here, making note that I'm convinced one of the main reasons I've been married so long & so happily, is that I learned early on to comply with almost everything she suggests, also noting that she is smarter than me & is mostly correct about pretty much everything upon which she opines. Okay, so I have had a ringing in my ear(s) since 1970, which was brought about by a rocket (in Viet Nam) landing close enough to knock me out of my bunk one night in our base camp. > The hearing evaluation was done by a person in a hearing aid store. Upon completion, the gentleman showed me the graph of my exam & explained things I didn't understand until he looked at me & said, "I could sell you an excellent hearing aid for a very reasonable price, but it wouldn't do any good. Hearing aids aren't the answer for your problem." I always knew that volume of conversations / sounds wasn't a problem, I just couldn't understand some things people said. He told me I wasn't hearing most vowels because of damage to something in there, meaning, I supposed, in my ear and all the non-audiophile cable connections to my brain. Sadly, I concluded no amount of hi-end connectors, nor application of De-oxit would help. The good news is the ringing is very clear, and tinnitus does come in handy to excuse not hearing something you don't want to (commonly referred to as selective hearing). Also don't know if sensitivity to loudness is related to tinnitus, or if it's just old age, but I find that sounds or noise a bit louder than conversation level are painful.
Everyone thinks I'm strange except my friends deep inside the earth
Thanks for your service. If you haven't looked into it already, you may be eligible to receive VA compensation for your tinnitus if they determine that it is service-connected. The rules for determining this are beyond my understanding, but any veterans' service organization (E.g., DAV, VFW, American Legion, among others) can give you more information and help you file a claim at no charge if you choose to do so.
Not too many service members clap on hearing protection in combat, so lots of veterans have service-related hearing loss and tinnitus.
Thank you pbarach for your kind words & info. Oddly, I never considered your suggestion about the V.A. I think perhaps because tinnitus is not a "visible" problem, such as wounds or an agent orange disease, I just went along with it as an unavoidable by-product of daily combat. At least that's what my excuse is for not thinking of it in the same way that you pointed out. Anyway, thanks again for your post/reply.
Everyone thinks I'm strange except my friends deep inside the earth
"Everyone thinks I'm strange except my friends deep inside the earth."
Maybe not everyone, especially if you have some LIVING Vietnam veteran friends.
I did my training as a psychologist in a VA hospital in 1979-1980, when I had a chance to talk to many veterans from WW2 and Korea, as well as from Vietnam. I feel privileged to work in a VA hospital now (NOT one of the hospitals that gets featured in horrifying news stories), where I still see some people who served in WW2 and Korea, as well as many Vietnam veterans and people who served in all of the combat zones the US has been in since Vietnam (Kosovo, Panama, Grenada, SW Asia, and others). Many wounds (not just tinnitus) aren't visible, including PTSD. And there are many who have service-connected conditions unrelated to combat, such as back problems from marching with 80-lb rucks, sexual trauma, exposure to chemicals, etc.
Any veteran who has health issues that they feel might have begun in the service has the right to file a claim for financial compensation for the injury or illness they suffer from as a result of serving their country. The ins and outs of the process are not a topic for this forum, but a VA representative or a veterans service officer from a veterans' organization is the best place to get more information.
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