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Hi-end audio is WAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY too difficult for the average person to bother with

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chuck55

In Reply to: RE: Clearest explanation yet, of the vanishing market for high-end. Read it and weep. posted by clarkjohnsen on September 28, 2007 at 11:35:12

Lies,

hype,

a zillion speakers to choose from,

no such thing as right or wrong

a $30,000 amp is still not "right"

Krell vs. Cary SET: If one is right the other must be wrong.

What hi-end audio needs is clearly definable benefits and advantages. Right now it's just a mire on confusion and can take a lifetime (if ever) to figure out.
I remember talking to one audiophile who spent years going through various systems. I then asked how his current system compared to his first hi-end system. He paused, thought of the advantages/ disadvantages of what he had now vs. then and seemed to think he really hadn't gotten anywhere. Hmmm, telling.

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Different than sports cars - Porsche vs Ferrari? - mkuller 13:10:10 09/29/07 (2)
(nt)
- Yes because sound is invisible - chuck55 13:50:10 09/29/07 (1)
  I can SEE the differences between how a Porsche and Ferrari look. Car and Driver can MEASURE the differences in acceleration, skidpad, braking distance etc.
  Now if you want to get into the intangible "soul" of the car, good luck. But how many people just buy cars based on looks? It works for GM but less so for audio. Tubes look cool glowing but most people aren't going to showcase a fancy stereo in their living room so you're back to the "sound" thing. And we all know measurements lie or at least don't tell the whole picture.
  How do you quantify what you can't see? By the looks, driver material, measurements?
  If you're going to base it on perception, well, that is highly subjective and changeable. Even for the same person on a given day and their frame of mind.
  There are so many ways to define sound and no system does it all. Do you focus on:
  1) Dynamic range.
  2) Spacial dimensionality.
  3) Transparency.
  4) Full range sound.
  5) Cohesiveness.
  I watch Wilson with careful interest because if any co. can figure it out, they can. What I see is their creation of the Wilson sound. It is big, dynamic, warm. Yes, colored too, but getting BIG sound costs BIG bucks and I think they have found a way to somewhat justify their prices.
  
  Edits: 09/29/07
  - It's just a question of priorities - what you want to spend your $ on...(nt) - mkuller 16:48:11 09/29/07 (0)
    (nt)
"No such thing as right or wrong." Wrong! There's polarity. nt - clarkjohnsen 12:16:22 09/29/07 (1)
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- Hey, that's a start! (nt) - chuck55 13:51:32 09/29/07 (0)
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