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In Reply to: RE: TAS this: posted by Phelonious Ponk on July 2, 2009 at 15:42:54
Just as everything from the sniffles to an inevitably fatal disease seem to start out with "flu-like symptoms" it seems to me that almost anything that goes awry with stereos causes an 'edge in the upper mids'. Including poor recordings. Of course we may not be talking about exactly the same thing but I reckon that our ears are really sensitive to something in that region. I THINK that it has to do with the zero crossings of the upper harmonics falling behind because ironically it can often be improved by turning up the treble control if one's machine is so equipped. Although that tilts up the response, that is easier to listen through than whatever else was happening.
Probably a lot of things including dielectric absorption conspire to screw things up in that region so capacitors, interconnect cables et al can make surprising differences. The screeching violin syndrome. Tweeter crossovers are especially suspect so that could be why you prefer active as the parts can be perfecter (sorry for using a technical term) if analog or non-existent if digital.
Rick
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Well, hearing sensitivity in the range of the human voice certainly isn't surprising and I don't doubt that much of if is perception. I'm reminded of the many audiophile posts I've read, praising this preamp or that DAC for smoothing out things that are simply not meant to be smooth. Cymbals and bells hit hard with wood sticks, un-muted trumpets, Bette Midler's voice -- these things are glaring and intrusive. To smooth them out may be pleasant, but like so many things in the audiophile pursuit, they are not necessarily high fidelity.
P
This is the one time that I can say that I agree with you P. I hate systems or components that every recording sounds the same, homogenized or colored. Having been a professional percussionist for over 20 years, you understand that many instruments are not polite, warm and sweet. The sad truth is audiohphiles don't want to hear the truth, but like their systems to have some type of characteristic sound quality.
Then, Vincent, you are on the path to agreeing with me on many things. Don't underestimate the power of the dark side...
:)
P
"smoothing out things that are simply not meant to be smooth"
I bet describing a system as 'smooth' more relates to lack of this problem than a seriously altered response. But if the distortion happens at the recording end, which I think is common, then listening on a flat system may have less fidelity to what the performance 'should' sound like than one that has been tweaked. I want the sound that would occur without amplifiers or microphones. Or compressors. Or exciters. Reverb on the other hand...
Rick
I agree completely. The problem is when you try to mitigate recording problems by tweaking system components, which is the common audiophile path, you alter the good recordings too. I won't have it. But I will use EQ from time to time.
P
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