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In Reply to: RE: The swipe at TAS... posted by mkuller on March 24, 2008 at 09:54:09
Hey, I have no problem with you. Always liked your stuff. I hardly ever had any personal interaction with you the way I did with Neil Gader, so there was no intended slight in your direction when I said Neil is the only one I miss. I qualified that by, who is still writing there. Had I been speaking of the time I quit, I would have included Scott Markwell.
I never aspired to be HP's successor or favorite. I am a true team player, a classic example of a diligent perfectionist introvert. I want to be left alone to do the best job I can; all I ask for is professionalism, and that includes a level playing field. Yeah, I know, dream on. I've worked in some law firms that were as dysfunctional as TAS.
As I believe Scot Markwell will confirm, if he remembers that far back, I requested the brief loan of some tube amplification to try to get better sound out of JM Lab speakers I had in to write about. REG stepped in with both feet, and announced that if the speakers did not sound good with "known good electronics" (a phrase I am told he has often employed) such as the Plinius gear I had on hand, JM should have the moral courage to call bad speakers bad speakers.
When I asked HP to referee the dispute, he backed up REG and made fun of me.
This, despite HP's later claim that the official TAS policy was that speakers under review had to be evaluated with three disparate amps... . As REG had already been deputized to write the second opinion, I saw the scribbling on the sheetrock. For whatever reason, REG had evidenced a prejudice and a refusal to depart from his own associated equipment in an effort at least to meet the device under review half-way. Kind of like using a Plinius SA-250 to drive Avant Garde horns, in my book.
It certainly appeared to me that because JM Lab was Jonathan Scull's refrence speaker at the time, it at least bore thinking about that REG was positioning himself to ding the JM Lab speakers I had, and in that way one-up JS. Not that I had any particular feeling about that, but, I could not participate in a process that was showing every sign of heading toward a manifestly unfair result, especially when "management" belittled my concerns. I asked JM Lab's importer to pick up the speakers and I resigned.
This was not the first episode at all that called into question the findamental fairness of the review process. As Brian Tucker should be able to confirm, after I filed my review (IIRC, not column coverage, a stand-alone review) of Wilson Benesch's ACT One, Brian agreed that the speakers could go to Sea Cliff for a brief audition by HP. There was an express requirement that the audition be brief and that the speakers go nowhere else, as they were spoken for by a tri-state area dealer.
When Brian Tucker was faxed the preprint of the review, he went crazy, because the reviewer whose second opinion damned the speakers and damned my review and purported to show by actual measurements that John Marks could not hear a 6 dB rise in the treble, was by a TAS writer who lived in California. Forget about everything else, was Brian's attitude. Who sent my NY-area dealer's speakers to California, in violation of our agreement????? Those speakers need to be picked up at Sea Cliff, like yesterday!
Oh, don't worry. The speakers never left HP's garage. They had sat for weeks, unopened. The California fair haired boy who had filed the slash and burn second opinion hadn't, um, er, actually LISTENED to the same pair that John Marks had liked so much. But, seeing as he was a true fair-haired boy, and HP didn't want to do the work, HP let the other writer RECYCLE a years-old review that had run in "Fi." Problem is (aside from basic issues of professionalism and ethics) that since the time that review had run in "Fi," Wilson Benesch had made changes to the ACT One in the:
Woofer-mid drivers;
Tweeter; and
Crossover.
The cabinet was the same, though. The speakers that "Fi" had written up were four generations back. Kind of like recycling an old review of Wilson Watt/Puppy 3s to comment on a new reivew of WP7s, don't you agree?
Brian told me what was going on, and what he suspected, and I went ballistic--yeah, Mike, I guess I just didn't "fit in." I can't at the moment think of higher praise. Thanks.
I threatened HP that I would go public, and he agreed to get the speakers I heard out of the boxes and listen to them. Oh, yeah, poor Scot Markwell was the buffer for my phone calls, and he should remember.
The upshot was, as far as I could tell, no action was taken against Mr. West Coast Recycler; but, the fraudulent second opinion was scrapped, and HP listened to the Wilson Benesch ACT Ones, and wrote a generally positive second opinion, including that had he not heard them he could not have put his finger on what the $86,000/pr Burmesters did not do as well, and that they were (IIRC) the only cone speakers he could think of that approached Magneplanar levels of coherence. But, in true passive-aggressive style, he just had to comment that John Marks' carping about how he had to listen to them was, sigh, just part of the job. Look it up for yourself; somewhere around Issu #116, IIRC.
So, that was Strike One, and the JM Labs episode was Strike Two, and I decided not to wait around for Strike Three. I had tried to view the score-settling aspect of the Wilson Benesch episode as an aberration, but one more data point nudged it more in the direction of SOP, and I said who needs this?
Those were the major episodes that directly went to the integrity of the review process. There were enough minor episodes where people in power at various levels seemed to put aside the responsibility to advise people how best to spend their hard-earned money and instead pursued different agendas to make it a near-constant struggle to stay focused.
My abiding feeling is rueful disappointment; I feel the re-start of TAS was a phenomenal opportunity for the good of the industry and I feel that for the most part that potential was not realized--what is the topic of this thread, hunh????
Is there is nobody at TAS or AMM who has a red pencil? Is there nobody with the balls to say to him or herself, "Regardless whether JV is right on the sound of Ayre, in view of the history, and the need to avoid the perception of score-settling, for the good of the magazine and the industry, I am going to delete this phrase"?
Apparently not.
Cordially,
JM
Follow Ups:
...and HP listened to the Wilson Benesch ACT Ones, and wrote a generally positive second opinion, including that had he not heard them he could not have put his finger on what the $86,000/pr Burmesters did not do as well...
The only reference to the Burmester was noting that placing them, like the W-Bs, too close to the back wall overly emphasized the upper bass region. He found that both speakers sounded more neutral when placed a third of the way out into the room. He commented that he experimented at length with placement in order to get the best response and settled for his usual "rule of thirds" rule. I think this commentary was in response to your stated preference to place them but a foot out from the wall.
...and that they were (IIRC) the only cone speakers he could think of that approached Magneplanar levels of coherence...
Here again, I'm not at all sure how you would conclude that based upon the text. Indeed he began the review by noting the superb performance benchmark offered by the baby Maggies when supplemented with the Carver subwoofer. The key word "only" was never used. The reference to Maggies was a point of reference. Specifically, he said:
"Put these two qualities together - exceedingly low distortion and Maggie-like overall coherency..."
HP let the other writer RECYCLE a years-old review that had run in "Fi."
You have proof this has ever occurred?
Look it up for yourself; somewhere around Issu #116, IIRC.
I did. Your comments are found in pages 47-51 and HP's are found in pages 97-99 in issue 119. So, you went bonkers over them and HP didn't. What's the beef?
rw
The comment I quoted from memory (that issue is in a storage facility) was in the Burmester speaker review.
And my beef is that HP was ready to recycle an old review from Fi rather than do the work he had promised to do. I don't care whether he liked the WBs or not.
If you don't believe me, call Brian Tucker. Or Craig Wilson.
Have a nice day.
JM
...was in the Burmester speaker review.
Indeed.
And my beef is that HP was ready to recycle an old review from Fi rather than do the work he had promised to do.
That is not the recollection of either HP nor Sallie Reynolds. Why would anyone at TAS now or then *reuse* a review previously printed in any other journal? Never happened.
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I am inclined to doubt any part of what he claims. Anyone can sling mud.
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the JV event that has received so much attention.
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...anything you said personally.
I'm sorry your experience at TAS was very different than mine.
On numerous occasions, I requested an additional tubed or solid state amp to use with a pair of speakers and my requests were always promptly met.
On a few occasions, I very heartily disagreed with REG's opinion. In fact I asked to comment on his Thiel CS 7.2 review because I suspected he would use an inappropriate amp like the Bryston with them and not like what he heard. My request was honored and both Tom Miiller and I wrote dissenting comments on his review.
Oh well...
Glad you didn't take that amiss, and thanks for your expression of sorrow re: my experience there.
I think that the re-start brought in a lot of disequilibrium and I think that people were trying to impress the new owners, or, see what they could get away with, and that included HP, or at least that's what it looked like to me.
How on God's green earth could you let someone try to recycle an out of date Fi review as a second opinion on a new TAS review? But he almost got away with it--the review was in bluelines, it was typset! Brian faxed it to me. The people at Wilson Benesch were speechless.
But for the singularity that the review pair was being waited for by a NYC-area dealer, the ruse might never have come to light.
Perhaps I was partially at fault for going in with stars in my eyes; I thought that TAS was the Mercedes-Benz of audio journalism, but I saw stuff that would have embarrassed Yugo.
Cordially,
JM
There you have it. You did the right thing by getting away from the sleaze mentality that permeated during that time (and allowed itself to fester later)
Paraphrasing: "There was no strike three"
Bravo,
Well done.
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