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... even with a hefty discount -$1250- it's way more than I want to spend -I need two pairs-. So the question is if there are any cables that would give that kind of sound, that kind of quality for a more reasonable price -$1000 to $1200 for both pairs-. I am looking both for RCA and Balanced interconnects. I have an all Chord System -even the loudspeakers- with VDH interconnects -the ones I want to upgrade- and Nordost SPM speaker cables.
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If your keen to try making the cables yourself I found some information in the following link that implies the Nordost mains cable is made from similar stuff to the Quattro I/C.Check it out :-
Quattro-Fil comes up often on Audiogon for very good prices -- seen $700 for 1M RCA, $800 for 1M XLR. 2m prices not much more, IIRC. I'm saving up for some as well.
I agree with this approach if you like the Quattro-Fil, which is a fine cable. I sold the 1 meter pair for $700 on A-Gon, and my 2 meter pair for $850 to a gentleman who is having me send it to Nordost for cutting and reterminating into two one meter pairs (don't know what that's running him, but I figure it's in your ballpark, you could call Nordost and ask). BTW, I'm replacing the 2 meter run with the HMS suggested below, as I like the tonal balance of the HMS a little better than the Q-F (a little richer in the mids, with most, if not all, of the transparency and detail of the Q-F); that would also be a viable alternative to consider, although if you like the Nordost, I think the used/retermination route is a really good way to go.
That's interesting what you say about Quattro Fil and HMS. I love my Quattro Fil, especially its detailing and speed. IMS it does not sound lean, in fact midrange is glorious and rich (all tubes).Even in reviews of Valhalla IC vs. Quattro Fil, reviewers mention that while Valhalla IC has more bass bloom and "naturalness," Quattro Fil still seems to have more pronounced midrange detail, which is what I like. I suspected that HMS IC probably has richer, fuller sound but I'm glad to hear that Quattro Fil may have more apparent detail, which I think will suit my system better.
Actually, my system is all tubed as well. I really do like the detail of the Q-F a lot, but prefer the Valhalla (and HMS) over it for the reasons you cited in your post (also why I prefer the Siltech G5 and NBS Omega over all the Nordost cables). I think the Q-F's leanness comes more in the upper and mid-bass areas than the midrange. Since I tend to like a little darker overall tonal shading to my system, that's why I've ultimately sold the Quattro-Fil, but from your listening preference in your post it is clearly just what the doctor ordered. The HMS is not quite as focused or ultimately resolving as the Nordost, in my system (tends to not quite get the leading edges of transients as sharply as the Nordost, and image focus is not as precise), which as a listener primarily to classical music I actually find more convincing in some respects, but is an equally fine-sounding cable, just a slightly different flavor.
Pure Note has a sale on XLR interconnects now. I think you can also get the RCA's on sale too. Two pairs for $800 sounds like your ticket.
"So the question is if there are any cables that would give that kind of sound, that kind of quality for a more reasonable price -$1000 to $1200 for both pairs"The key point in that statement is "that kind of sound". What KIND of sound are your after? What do the Nordost do for your system that your other cables don't? I am pretty sure that quality can be had for less than 1000-1200 for 2 pairs.
Personal preferences and your desire for this cable's specific sound qualities aside, Ordinarily, I would recommend solid silver in teflon, with great connectors for fine audio applications, and you can do that for a lot less than 1000 a pair, or even 1000 for 2 pair. Condition them on a cooker, and boom, you've got a pureness of sound, free of gimics and miracle potions, and you got it at a reasonable cost.
Sure, there are different designs, some more elaborate than others. Then others with a real marketing spin, presenting everything but magic potions. But the real question is, do they justify that kind of additional cash? Do they improve the sound? Maybe, maybe not. That's an individual decision. For some people, it's an easy decision. In the end, let your ears decide.
Lex
These cables are at least as good as the Nordost Valhalla, but you can get them for a third of the price and HMS has a 30 days money back guarantee. They are much better than the Nordost Quattro Fils ic's, or the Nordost SPM speaker cables.
If you need further information click the links below.
These are links to a shoot out between the Valhalla and the HMS Grand Finale cables.http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/cables/messages/45517.html
http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/cables/messages/48292.html
or visit their website: http://hms.thumbrocket.com/
The gentleman cited the old website, so I hope nobody will mind if I correct this error. I have moved to my own domain in the meantime.http://www.hmscables.com/home.htm
And a few words regarding HMS Grand Finale vs. Quattro Fil. Everybody will agree that the Valhalla is superior to the Quattro Fil in every respect.
This includes detail and transparency. I know of at least 3 customers who sold their Valhalla in favor of the HMS Grand Finale and I have a trade-in of a pair of Valhalla interconnects, which I received for a HMS Grand Finale and which I am trying to sell.
These are facts and anybody can draw his or her own conclusions about cable performance.
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