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Anyone use Anti cables with Maggie MMG. I have MIT 750 tube terminator wire with spade so I would nee a banana connector to use. I have the banana adapter I could use in the meantime. Any cable suggestion's would be appreciated.
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detailed and revealing, very clean and just slightly bright. The maggies I've owned were a bit polite, so I tinhk there might be good synergy. Antis are very cheaqp, so you won't risk much to try them.
I haven't tried Anti Cable for speakers, yet, but have tried the IC's. I've tried a few different budget speaker cables, in the past. The most expensive being Kimber 8tc. The one cable I keep going back to has been just plain ol' simple 14g Romex, with the ground wire removed and bare wire connection. Yeah, not the best, but there's something about it that works well for me. I think I'm a fan of solid core, as my favorite interconnects are always solid core types. Some day, I'll again try some different speaker cables, but it hasn't been high on my priority list.
If you ever do try Anti Cables, I would suggest just using a bare wire connection.
The reason they get away with scrawny wire in a panel is because there is so little of it.
A speaker run of more than a couple feet made from magnet wire is not advised.
I don't know how important 'damping factor' is with Maggies, but putting an ohm or more in series with the speaker/amp will substantially lower than value.
Too much is never enough
Hey Pict,
Have you looked at a pair of maggies??
The reason they get away with scrawny wire in a panel is because there is so little of it.
Look at the pict. assuming 5ft per run you are looking at over 200ft of that scrawny wire. My mmgs have at least 100ft.
A speaker run of more than a couple feet made from magnet wire is not advised.
I don't know how important 'damping factor' is with Maggies, but putting an ohm or more in series with the speaker/amp will substantially lower than value.
Yep, classic wisdom. Though IME it doesnt apply to maggies. Thinner wire actually tightens the bass even with the added resistance.
If you have a 100+ feet what is an extra 8 or 12 for that matter? All that current that a 12g wire carries makes it through hundreds of ft of 28g wire??
Also, in re-reading your post, the addition of resistance between amp and speaker would
have the basic effect of turning your voltage source SS amp into a current source, which Magnepan really likes.
Too much is never enough
No, sorry,
I thought we were talking the interconnect / internal wire.
On the active part of the panel/driver.
That is aluminum for low mass to resistance ratio, which is better than copper.
The amount / gauge is than chosen to be the right length and end up at about 4 ohms.
If we are talking internal wiring.....
The panels are usually fused. My 1.6s have a mid/tweet fuse of 4 amps. So, the internal panel wiring needs only to be able to handle say.....2x that and in short runs...... So, resistance of that wire matters little. No need for internal 12 or usually even 14.
Too much is never enough
PG,
Hey, sorry I didnt know you had maggies.
Anyhow, I should note that I was talking about speaker cables, though the pict I showed was the connection from my crossovers to the drivers.
I still think that speaker cables of thin gauge are perfect for maggies for shorter runs. 5ft are my runs from amp to crossover and I bi-wire and one day will biamp.
Are you sure thin makes the amps more of a current source?? I thought it actually limits current. Anyhow that might explain why the thin stuff sounds so good on the maggies.
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Yep, been a MagFan for 25+ years.
Hi resistance cables is the fastest way to make sure amplifier 'damping' is out of the picture!
Anyway, have fun. I use VAST overkill speaker wires which i purchased before I thought it thru.
I'd do it again and go no thicker than 12, for my length of run.
Also, while I believe in microphonics, I am not completely on board with such a phenom in speaker wire......even the vibrations between parallel wires won't, for example, change the capacitance enough to effect HF response.
enjoy::
Too much is never enough
Frank,
If you have short runs say under 8ft, then try some magwire from Ratshack for $6. Wire the mmgs with the green spool, using sandpaper to remove the enamel.
This is a cheap and hard to beat way to wire up your mags.
A simple recipe is to get some cotton string at the supermarket (they use this to tie up poultry). Use the cotton string and starting with the 2 wires on opposite sides of the cotton and cross them by making an "x" going in circles around the cotton. This is a blatant rip off of an Alan Wright ic recipe where he uses teflon tubing, but I like the cotton string better as it is easy to find, cheap and easier to work with. Cotton seems to also help with vibration.
Here is the pict using the red wire, but use the green or even the yellow if you are scared.
Though you can probably see from the pict below, I am using this same recipe from my external crossovers to my mmg drivers. This was supposed to be a short term stop gap measure until I built some "proper" jumpers, but it sounded good enough and I never got around to it, and well I will be going active soon and no need for the jumpers:
And dont freak out about the tiny gauge of the wire. Look in the 2nd pict. See the gold wire coming in from the top? That is the actual maggie driver wire, which is about the same size as the green wire in the ratshack pack.
Try it, you might like it and if you dont you are out less than $10 and some time. Though I bet you might just find that this really sings on the mags.
I have a 12 ft rub and am using 750 MIT tube terminator with the Revel F30. I may just re-terminate the wire and put a banana on the end or use bare wire. I also have a banana adapter.
12 ft is not too long, maybe try double runs. If you dont like it turn them into interconnects.
If you like the mit, just re-terminate.
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