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I am looking for a step up for the power cord for my Golden Tube SE-100 power amp. I have tried a bunch of different cables including Shunyata, VH Audio, PS Audio and others. Right now I am using an Audience PowerChord which is the only thing I have found that this amp likes. I understand it is unshielded and low impedance. Is that what I should be looking for? Let me know what you guys think. Thanks!
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The most 'neutral', non-obtrusive power cord I've tried to date (and am now using). Most others will play havoc with the tonal balance of your set-up trying to correct presumable frequency deficiencies which do not really exist in well designed gear. At the same time, if you're still not happy with any particular cord then just use the stock cord..Granted it may not be the optimum, but it will also not change the way your gear 'should' sound.JMHO..
AP
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I tried several and always went back to the stock cord.
to recieve the ultimate benefit.
This means the breaker panel and all the wiring in the house , and the wire from the pole.
Ed
Most of the transformers on the pole are of the single bushing type. So, the hv return and the center neutral feed to all the houses share a common connection, and that is fed to the earth every 2nd or third pole, depending on the worst case soil moisture content. So, depending on the power company's ability to balance the three phase network currents to minimize the imbalance of the hv neutral, there will be earth currents flowing, causing a gradient. Typical house setups will earth at the water pipe coming to the house, and many have a seperate grounding rod dropped at the service feed entrance to the house.Ground loops are huge, and put there by design in the effort to provide a safe electrical feed to the houses.
It's better to try to reduce the ground loop at the equipment, and sometimes the line cord design does affect that. Unfortunately, most of the line cord stuff is pretty much hit or miss, leaving users left to experiment.
Im surprised you didn't include the "miles and miles of wires back to the powerstation" argument..so at least you didn't waste time typing that fallacy of an argument..
Hey, don't be a stranger...if you have any questions, just ask..
Cheers, John
"Right now I am using an Audience PowerChord which is the only thing I have found that this amp likes."Then your search is over :-)
Seriously, what do U mean by the above statement? What was it about the other cables your amp "Didn't like"?
It's all about synergy/system tuning and the search can be long and arduous BUT the rewards can be musically satisfying.
Cheers,
~kenster
I have found that other cords, particularly the Shunyata Python and the VH Audio Airsine gave a better soundstage and were more resolving than the Audience. However, the Audience has a sense of impact and immediacy that is lacking in the others. The PS Audio Statement SC and Premeir SC sounded a bit veiled. I am using the Airsines and PS Audio cords elsewhere in my system to excellent effect, but still feel there is something better out there for the amp.
I consider soundstage or 'recording venue ambience' recreation as a measure of high-fidelity. You might prefer other power cables, but the bass might be suspect in this case. Check whether you get 'heavy' bass or 'tight/tuneful/agile' bass. But still if you prefer other cables, it is your preference :-)
I like to shoot for complete high-fidelity and always use neutral components all thru the chain. But then again, there are different approaches to the audiophile nirvana.
Nice post. I also find certain audiophile chords provide lift in a treble region, creating the illusion of increased detail at the expense of neutral, natural sound. The seductiveness of the perceived hyper deteil gives way to grain and lack of engagement. The more neutral chords will flesh out the mids and extend into the bass regin, creating a smoother more coherent image.To the original poster, I have achieved very smooth neutral presentation with Ear to Ear Black and Red power chords using the less expensive Marinco connectors. After extensive listening, I found their presentation more neutral than the VHAudio Flavor 4's w/ Furutech connectors they replaced.
Use the black chords on amps and preamps, and the red chords on digital source components. Money back guarantee for a month plus a trade up policy. I have no affilliation, just a very happy customer...
Ken
I read in your system details that U are using a PS Audio Ultimate Outlet. Nice system by the way, pretty much mirrors mine but with a different approach :-)Having gone down this road and having learned many valuable lessons along the way, may I ask what outlet(s) U have powering your system?
What is the chain from outlet to P600?I, and others, have found that the outlet(s) that supply power to ones system can have a very profound effect on a systems voicing and resolution capabilities.
Cheers,
~kenster
I have actually moved the P600 to my HT system. It has been replaced with the new Premier Power Plant, which is an awesome piece and a large step up from the P600. The outlet is a Furutech Copper. The cord between the wall and the PPP is a PS Audio Premier SC. I am then running a VH Audio Airsine with Copper Wattgates to the CDP, a PS Audio Statement SC to the Steelhead and a Harmonic Technology AC-11 to the turntable motor. This setup seems to work very well for my sources.Subs are using a VH Audio Airsine from wall (stock outlet) to PS Audio UPC 200 and to fixed cords from there.
On the amp side, I currently have a PS Audio Statement SC from the wall (same Furutech outlet) to a PS Audio Duet and the Audience PowerChord to the amp. I am thinking about trying a Purist cable to replace the Audience...any thoughts on their products?
-astralpen
"I have actually moved the P600 to my HT system."I did the exact same thing with my P600! Can't beat the picture clarity when powered by the P600 :-)
Looking over your system description, the only item I notice that might be of concern is the stock outlet feeding your subs/UPC 200.
Might want to replace that with a Furutech.I have found that the quality of power to the subs is just as or more important to the system voicing/synergy as power cables to the amp.
I have not heard any of the Purist cables but I would start with replacing the stock outlet and go from there.
Cheers,
~kenster
Stiff power cords may work well electrically, but create problems if the space available causes them to conduct vibration from, say, the rear wall into the equipment chassis.
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