I don't believe it either; coping anything to Digital involves losses! - Teresa

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Topic - This mo's Stereopile, Fremer on vinyl's drawbacks - Tightwad 11:08:02 07/18/06 (153)

Let's shoot for a page to topic ratio of 1:1 (this is my little contribution) (nt) - krenzler 18:15:53 07/19/06 (1)

Let's all go to A&W. A&W. A&W. Food's more fun at A&W... - tketcham 19:33:26 07/19/06 (0)

Wow, can we discuss religion and politics until everyone calms down?(nt) - Bry 15:03:58 07/19/06 (0)

You just might beat Guys record for number of replies. nm - tketcham 18:59:25 07/18/06 (13)

My intent, honestly, was not to troll, nor . . . - Tightwad 19:11:26 07/18/06 (12)

It's not about "hackles" it's about - kavakidd 22:37:39 07/18/06 (0)

$5K is a hell of a lot of money, I too would expect a turntable at that ungodly price to be perfect as well! - Teresa 21:08:54 07/18/06 (1)

Re: $5K is a hell of a lot of money, I too would expect a turntable at that ungodly price to be perfect as well! - newyorkp7 21:28:58 07/18/06 (0)

Personal decisions cannot be blamed on anyone but themselves ... - tketcham 20:26:58 07/18/06 (3)

Pointed rock in the water?? OUCH! But great analogy. I like it ;-) ... - matt67bianco 22:05:49 07/18/06 (2)

Re: Pointed rock in the water?? OUCH! But great analogy. I like it ;-) ... - tketcham 06:15:03 07/19/06 (1)

It was a very pointed analogy... - axolotl 13:51:36 07/19/06 (0)

Do you own a turntable? - powermatic 19:38:46 07/18/06 (4)

My turntable is larger than my television (pic inside). - Tightwad 08:49:05 07/19/06 (3)

Painting with a broad brush. - powermatic 20:04:09 07/19/06 (0)

Re: My turntable is larger than my television (pic inside). - Biff 10:37:32 07/19/06 (1)

What's your point? - Tightwad 10:43:30 07/19/06 (1)

You should read the whole article and not just the headline. - Terry P 17:21:10 07/18/06 (7)

In other words, Fremer trots out the same cliches and appeals to romanticism . . . - Tightwad 19:00:14 07/18/06 (6)

You really don't get it. - kavakidd 22:39:31 07/18/06 (0)

I smell sour grapes from you Tightwad. What I hate is people pimping low resolution CD. - Teresa 21:16:39 07/18/06 (2)

Yup - even cassette - - kavakidd 15:11:27 07/19/06 (0)

Give it up, Theresa! - jsm 14:41:57 07/19/06 (0)

If you don't mind me asking, - newyorkp7 19:42:26 07/18/06 (1)

Wrong on all counts. I've only sold about five of my LPs in my lifetime . . . - Tightwad 08:32:12 07/19/06 (0)

Tightwad blows - OMalley 17:10:16 07/18/06 (2)

What are we going to do with you OMalley? - Jack Seaton 17:23:59 07/18/06 (1)

appypolylodges [nt] - OMalley 19:05:27 07/18/06 (0)

Each format has it's pros and cons... - kenster 16:20:10 07/18/06 (0)

Re: This mo's Stereopile, Fremer on vinyl's drawbacks - Wendell Narrod 16:00:19 07/18/06 (3)

Re: This mo's Stereopile, Fremer on vinyl's drawbacks - dudeupshaw@cogeco.ca 22:06:22 07/18/06 (0)

Tightwad? Stir up a pointless debate?? Nah. /nt\ - HenryH 16:33:14 07/18/06 (0)

You are right. - srdavis2000 16:20:12 07/18/06 (0)

Re: This mo's Stereopile, Fremer on vinyl's drawbacks - old6eyes 15:32:10 07/18/06 (0)

The physical nature.. - castironandtubes 15:20:14 07/18/06 (38)

Re: The physical nature.. - cjfrbw 15:25:52 07/18/06 (37)

This is my belief also - jbangelfish 15:35:15 07/18/06 (31)

Re: This is my belief also - Tightwad 15:41:11 07/18/06 (30)

Lossless copy my ass - jbangelfish 15:44:57 07/18/06 (29)

I don't believe it either; coping anything to Digital involves losses! - Teresa 21:25:58 07/18/06 (25)

Re: I don't believe it either; coping anything to Digital involves losses! - John Elison 06:19:22 07/19/06 (24)

no it doesn't - OMalley 19:35:25 07/19/06 (0)

I don't need luck when I am correct, and I am correct 100%! - Teresa 17:12:30 07/19/06 (0)

Please define accurate - jbangelfish 07:38:09 07/19/06 (21)

Why don't you look it up in the dictionary? Also, look up "reproduction" while you're at it.... - John Elison 11:51:22 07/19/06 (1)

This may surprise you but I know what it means - jbangelfish 13:26:13 07/19/06 (0)

Re: Please define accurate - Tightwad 08:29:15 07/19/06 (18)

I scanned your article. My concern is how something sounds and how close that is to what I hear live! - Teresa 17:27:16 07/19/06 (0)

Re: Please define accurate - George Mann 15:10:16 07/19/06 (0)

Re: Nyquist - Shannon - castironandtubes 09:40:50 07/19/06 (9)

Aha, now somebody is finally using his brain . . . - Tightwad 09:51:22 07/19/06 (8)

talk about imperial measures - castironandtubes 10:17:11 07/19/06 (7)

Re: talk about imperial measures - Chefren 03:06:07 07/21/06 (0)

P.S. So empiricism has nothing to do with judging accuracy? (nt) - Tightwad 10:45:32 07/19/06 (2)

Well that has nothing to do with what I said. nt. - castironandtubes 11:00:40 07/19/06 (1)

Maybe he thought you meant empirical? :-) (nt) - ffrr 22:55:43 07/21/06 (0)

Re: talk about imperial measures - Tightwad 10:41:14 07/19/06 (2)

Re: talk about imperial measures - George Mann 15:22:33 07/19/06 (0)

You know you're being a troll - castironandtubes 11:16:05 07/19/06 (0)

You are not JE and you did not define accurate - jbangelfish 09:17:36 07/19/06 (1)

Great points and I agree with all. And I would like to ad I didn't discover Vinyl until after CD was invented as - Teresa 17:48:42 07/19/06 (0)

Re: Please define accurate - Biff 08:42:15 07/19/06 (3)

Oops, I really meant to change the subject line.... - Biff 08:44:12 07/19/06 (2)

Are you one of those subjectivists . . . - Tightwad 08:55:41 07/19/06 (1)

Re: Are you one of those subjectivists . . . - Biff 09:35:33 07/19/06 (0)

Re: Lossless copy my ass - Tightwad 15:57:39 07/18/06 (2)

What kind of fucked up question is that? - jbangelfish 16:03:50 07/18/06 (1)

"You kiss your mother with that mouth?" doesn't make sense on the internet. (nt) - Tightwad 09:56:41 07/19/06 (0)

I smell something . . . - Tightwad 15:31:43 07/18/06 (4)

It may be your ass - jbangelfish 15:46:15 07/18/06 (2)

I clicked on your post hoping for . . . - Tightwad 15:55:19 07/18/06 (1)

yup, sorry - jbangelfish 15:58:55 07/18/06 (0)

Re: I smell something . . . - cjfrbw 15:34:44 07/18/06 (0)

Someone should just ask Fremer what he meant - Biff 15:11:42 07/18/06 (1)

Gee. That makes sense. It'll never happen. nm - tketcham 18:57:57 07/18/06 (0)

Mastering, mastering, and mastering. - olddude55 14:55:03 07/18/06 (0)

Re: This mo's Stereopile, Fremer on vinyl's drawbacks - cjfrbw 13:32:45 07/18/06 (2)

Even Fremer Touts Vinyl's Superiority to CDs... - AnalogJ 13:46:17 07/18/06 (1)

Re: Even Fremer Touts Vinyl's Superiority to CDs... - cjfrbw 15:08:53 07/18/06 (0)

But It DOES....sort of - AnalogJ 13:19:29 07/18/06 (22)

Agree - jbangelfish 15:56:52 07/18/06 (2)

The Superiority of Vinyl, Only If... - AnalogJ 19:20:00 07/18/06 (0)

Re: Agree - Tightwad 15:59:54 07/18/06 (0)

Re: But It DOES....sort of - Fred J 14:10:27 07/18/06 (0)

Re: But It DOES....sort of - Tightwad 13:34:04 07/18/06 (17)

Re: But It DOES....sort of - AnalogJ 13:39:41 07/18/06 (16)

Re: But It DOES....sort of - beto 18:03:37 07/18/06 (0)

I agree Vinyl gets us the closest to the sound of the Master Tape with the soul exception of 2 track Reel to Reel dubs. - Teresa 15:17:44 07/18/06 (14)

You are wrong. - jsm 14:37:06 07/19/06 (8)

I am 100% correct. And people have made CD-R's for me from LPs and they are missing all of LPs resolution. - Teresa 18:03:24 07/19/06 (2)

Theresa, there is no hope! You still don't get it. - jsm 11:34:33 07/21/06 (1)

Not possible every single SACD I have compared to it's audiophile LP version - Teresa 22:31:07 07/21/06 (0)

I can do that too - but it's not the same process - kavakidd 15:15:30 07/19/06 (0)

Finally some truth! Thank you, Joe. (nt) - John Elison 15:11:34 07/19/06 (3)

Forgive me for asking but when is the experiment involving Mr. Lavigne's set-up scheduled to take place? (nt) - krenzler 20:11:22 07/19/06 (2)

Good question.... - John Elison 03:10:49 07/20/06 (1)

Thanks for the link. Looking forward to the result once it's done (nt) - krenzler 14:49:48 07/20/06 (0)

Re: I agree Vinyl gets us the closest to the sound of the Master Tape with the soul exception of 2 track Reel to Reel du - mothra 07:48:28 07/19/06 (0)

45rpm direct to disc - castironandtubes 15:43:38 07/18/06 (3)

Re: 45rpm direct to disc - Mike Currie 07:39:27 07/19/06 (0)

Re: 45rpm direct to disc - IBSmiester 16:40:44 07/18/06 (1)

Charlie Byrd is great, Crystal Clear has other 45rpm direct to disc's as does JVC Japan and a few others. - Teresa 21:42:14 07/18/06 (0)

Re: This mo's Stereopile, Fremer on vinyl's drawbacks - beto 12:46:18 07/18/06 (5)

Question? - Teresa 15:29:28 07/18/06 (2)

Re: Question? - beto 17:42:24 07/18/06 (1)

Yes I know about the Everest releases and do avoid them. I get the audiophile reissues instead. - Teresa 21:55:55 07/18/06 (0)

Re: This mo's Stereopile, Fremer on vinyl's drawbacks - Tightwad 12:54:29 07/18/06 (0)

Re: This mo's Stereopile, Fremer on vinyl's drawbacks - J.D. 12:51:25 07/18/06 (0)

Re: This mo's Stereopile, Fremer on vinyl's drawbacks - srdavis2000 12:01:32 07/18/06 (28)

Re: This mo's Stereopile, Fremer on vinyl's drawbacks - Tightwad 12:19:09 07/18/06 (2)

No - srdavis2000 12:29:34 07/18/06 (1)

Re: No - Tightwad 12:37:43 07/18/06 (0)

A dead giveaway..... - vinyl-addict 12:07:04 07/18/06 (24)

No, it means that the manufacturer gave him a smoking deal on it ... - Jack Seaton 12:16:26 07/18/06 (23)

okay then, time for you to reveal the manufacturer cost of the Caliburn - J.D. 12:46:32 07/18/06 (16)

" how you can know about Mikey's self-perceptions" - powermatic 18:50:27 07/18/06 (0)

Okay, since you asked ... - Jack Seaton 18:18:50 07/18/06 (14)

OT, but e-mail me anytime about F1 or MotoGP! /nt/ - powermatic 21:34:20 07/18/06 (1)

Will do. Or feel free to e-mail me in case I forget, okay? nt - Jack Seaton 21:35:28 07/18/06 (0)

lotsa name-dropping there jack... Every reply is a guess, a bluff, or both. Got it. ..... nt - J.D. 18:24:00 07/18/06 (11)

Let's not make this ugly, J.D. - Jack Seaton 20:32:08 07/18/06 (5)

Re: Let's not make this ugly, J.D. - George Mann 16:12:50 07/19/06 (2)

My, my. Please elaborate and give me examples. - Jack Seaton 17:03:28 07/19/06 (1)

Re: My, my. Please elaborate and give me examples. - George Mann 12:47:56 07/20/06 (0)

" Hint: These men have money and spend it ... a lot of it on audio " .... - J.D. 00:28:33 07/19/06 (1)

"I say let the reader decide." It seems apparent that a few have ... be well. :) nt - Jack Seaton 06:24:08 07/19/06 (0)

JD, I don't think that response to Jacks Post - Fred J 18:52:33 07/18/06 (4)

Thanks, Fred. :) nt - Jack Seaton 21:33:08 07/18/06 (0)

gotta love his "authoritative" tone, but case not proven in any instance ... nt - J.D. 19:05:01 07/18/06 (2)

there is a lot of us around here who have issues with AUTHORITY - OMalley 19:22:30 07/18/06 (1)

Re: there is a lot of us around here who have issues with AUTHORITY - Jack Seaton 21:34:27 07/18/06 (0)

How do you know he bought it at or near cost? - vinyl-addict 12:26:53 07/18/06 (5)

Re: How do you know he bought it at or near cost? - Fred J 12:43:15 07/18/06 (4)

Thank you, Fred, for being the voice of reason in my absense. - Jack Seaton 13:45:03 07/18/06 (0)

Re: How do you know he bought it at or near cost? - old6eyes 13:39:25 07/18/06 (2)

Re: How do you know he bought it at or near cost? - beto 18:18:12 07/18/06 (0)

Re: How do you know he bought it at or near cost? - Fred J 15:04:53 07/18/06 (0)

I just read that last night! - Muzikmike 11:28:38 07/18/06 (0)

Re: This mo's Stereopile, Fremer on vinyl's drawbacks - Wendell Narrod 11:23:02 07/18/06 (11)

The article ends with - Muzikmike 11:35:06 07/18/06 (0)

Re: This mo's Stereopile, Fremer on vinyl's drawbacks - Biff 11:33:35 07/18/06 (0)

My conclusions are my own. (nt) - Tightwad 11:33:32 07/18/06 (8)

But... - Bjerager 12:12:56 07/18/06 (7)

Re: But... - Tightwad 12:16:17 07/18/06 (6)

Re: But... - Bjerager 13:13:53 07/18/06 (5)

Re: But... - Tightwad 13:28:24 07/18/06 (4)

But newbee's come to Vinyl because they are UNHAPPY with the sound of CDs - Teresa 22:09:49 07/18/06 (0)

"the lie that 'vinyl crushes digital'" - castironandtubes 15:14:58 07/18/06 (2)

Re: "the lie that 'vinyl crushes digital'" - Tightwad 15:25:24 07/18/06 (1)

Stating opinion as fact is not what I would call "conservative" nt. - castironandtubes 15:40:13 07/18/06 (0)

Uh, what "bulls*#t" is that? /nt\ - HenryH 11:16:28 07/18/06 (2)

Re: Uh, what "bulls*#t" is that? /nt\ - Vinylized 13:35:50 07/18/06 (0)

You asked... - 4yanx 11:32:23 07/18/06 (0)

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I don't believe it either; coping anything to Digital involves losses! - Teresa 21:25:58 07/18/06 (25)

Re: I don't believe it either; coping anything to Digital involves losses! - John Elison 06:19:22 07/19/06 (24)

no it doesn't - OMalley 19:35:25 07/19/06 (0)

I don't need luck when I am correct, and I am correct 100%! - Teresa 17:12:30 07/19/06 (0)

Please define accurate - jbangelfish 07:38:09 07/19/06 (21)

Why don't you look it up in the dictionary? Also, look up "reproduction" while you're at it.... - John Elison 11:51:22 07/19/06 (1)

This may surprise you but I know what it means - jbangelfish 13:26:13 07/19/06 (0)

Re: Please define accurate - Tightwad 08:29:15 07/19/06 (18)

I scanned your article. My concern is how something sounds and how close that is to what I hear live! - Teresa 17:27:16 07/19/06 (0)

Re: Please define accurate - George Mann 15:10:16 07/19/06 (0)

Re: Nyquist - Shannon - castironandtubes 09:40:50 07/19/06 (9)

Aha, now somebody is finally using his brain . . . - Tightwad 09:51:22 07/19/06 (8)

talk about imperial measures - castironandtubes 10:17:11 07/19/06 (7)

Re: talk about imperial measures - Chefren 03:06:07 07/21/06 (0)

P.S. So empiricism has nothing to do with judging accuracy? (nt) - Tightwad 10:45:32 07/19/06 (2)

Well that has nothing to do with what I said. nt. - castironandtubes 11:00:40 07/19/06 (1)

Maybe he thought you meant empirical? :-) (nt) - ffrr 22:55:43 07/21/06 (0)

Re: talk about imperial measures - Tightwad 10:41:14 07/19/06 (2)

Re: talk about imperial measures - George Mann 15:22:33 07/19/06 (0)

You know you're being a troll - castironandtubes 11:16:05 07/19/06 (0)

You are not JE and you did not define accurate - jbangelfish 09:17:36 07/19/06 (1)

Great points and I agree with all. And I would like to ad I didn't discover Vinyl until after CD was invented as - Teresa 17:48:42 07/19/06 (0)

Re: Please define accurate - Biff 08:42:15 07/19/06 (3)

Oops, I really meant to change the subject line.... - Biff 08:44:12 07/19/06 (2)

Are you one of those subjectivists . . . - Tightwad 08:55:41 07/19/06 (1)

Re: Are you one of those subjectivists . . . - Biff 09:35:33 07/19/06 (0)