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Re: My take on the Bedini Clarifier.

Posted by Steve Eddy on November 6, 2001 at 01:13:00

In Reply to: My take on the Bedini Clarifier. posted by Æ on November 5, 2001 at 23:45:37:

My opinion of course, based on observation. First of all I do not believe that the Bedini Clarifier can positively affect in any way magnetic, electrical, nuclear, or sub atomic properties of a CD, making it sound better.

Well, that wasn't the thrust of my argument. I was getting at specific, objective claims regarding a specific medium (PhotoCD) which were absolutely, undeniably, patently and provably false. It's upon these claims which the validity of the patent is based and which I used to illustrate a comment I'd made in a previous thread regarding the credibility of products advertised as "patented."

However I have noticed that some CD's, either music or computer program, can wobble ever so slightly. Either because of a very small warp or some other imbalance. Ever place a CD into a computer with a very fast (52x) CD ROM DRIVE and have it start to vibrate, almost violently? I've had some CD's that the CD ROM DRIVE could not handle and almost spit out.

Hell, I've seen that in 4x CD-ROM drives. :)

Anyway spinning something very fast tends to flatten (true) it out. One can easily impart a bend or warp to a CD if you pull it or push it to hard. In fact you can potato chip a CD if you actually try, they don't always break to pieces. You can demonstrate for yourself how far a CD can be bent with one of those AOL giveaway discs.

Oh, you like torturing AOL giveaway discs too, eh? :)

Anyway, yes, you can permanently deform a disk if you bend it far enough and go beyond the elastic phase and hit the plastic stage. But you might also notice that you'll never get them flat again simply by pressing it flat. You need to go back in the opposite direction.

So when the Bedini Clarifier spins a disk, it might actually be flattening the disk, even if ever so slightly, which would tend to improve the discs performance in regard to tracking errors and such. A CD laser mechanism should have an easier time keeping focus on a flat disk.

Yes. But then the CD is also spinning the disk. I've no idea what sort of RPM the Clarifier develops, but unless it's faster than the slowest RPM of a CD, I don't see that it would be of any use.

In any case, the point I was making was regarding the patent process, not what the Clarifier may or may not be doing beyond what's claimed in the patent.

Centrifugal force is real.
Many acrylics, plastics or polymers 'remember' a bend.

Quite so.

I hope you find my deduction logical. By the way I have never actually tried a Bedini Clarifier, so I wold not know for sure either way. A local dealer here swears by them, but I believe his bottom line influences his take on them..

No, you're not making an unreasonable argument. Just that it's a bit off course from the point I was trying to illustrate.

se

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